Any1 have retrofitting on EF?
i got a friend that did that,,he used the apc ebay plastic lights with acura tl hids and i forget what kind of shield he used..i think its casper or some **** like that?? all i know is the cutoff line is perfect..looks oem..
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nelsmar »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">too bad crxs look terrible with anything plastic on the front : P stock corner lenses dont even look right. let alone HID headlights.</TD></TR></TABLE>
funny that you say that,since some crx's come stock from honda with plasitc headlights..
funny that you say that,since some crx's come stock from honda with plasitc headlights..
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bag »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
funny that you say that,since some crx's come stock from honda with plasitc headlights..</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, and 90% of them look like crap too- cloudy or yellowed with age.
Just because it's OEM doesn't make it a great decision in putting them on your car,
esp. since the beam patterns are biased for RHD traffic and would blind oncoming drivers here in the states!
If you have an SiR front end, get the EDM glass lights instead; much cleaner, some were motorized for in-cabin adjustment.
funny that you say that,since some crx's come stock from honda with plasitc headlights..</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, and 90% of them look like crap too- cloudy or yellowed with age.
Just because it's OEM doesn't make it a great decision in putting them on your car,
esp. since the beam patterns are biased for RHD traffic and would blind oncoming drivers here in the states!
If you have an SiR front end, get the EDM glass lights instead; much cleaner, some were motorized for in-cabin adjustment.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tmeracz »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah, and 90% of them look like crap too- cloudy or yellowed with age.
Just because it's OEM doesn't make it a great decision in putting them on your car,
esp. since the beam patterns are biased for RHD traffic and would blind oncoming drivers here in the states!
If you have an SiR front end, get the EDM glass lights instead; much cleaner, some were motorized for in-cabin adjustment.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i never thought about tha RHD lighting. thats a good point there! and ide be intrested in HID in the OEM housing. i just hate how crx's look with after market headlights. and i wish we had... matching corner lenses lol. they just look .... bleh.
Just because it's OEM doesn't make it a great decision in putting them on your car,
esp. since the beam patterns are biased for RHD traffic and would blind oncoming drivers here in the states!
If you have an SiR front end, get the EDM glass lights instead; much cleaner, some were motorized for in-cabin adjustment.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i never thought about tha RHD lighting. thats a good point there! and ide be intrested in HID in the OEM housing. i just hate how crx's look with after market headlights. and i wish we had... matching corner lenses lol. they just look .... bleh.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tmeracz »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Just because it's OEM doesn't make it a great decision in putting them on your car,
esp. since the beam patterns are biased for RHD traffic and would blind oncoming drivers here in the states!
If you have an SiR front end, get the EDM glass lights instead; much cleaner, some were motorized for in-cabin adjustment.</TD></TR></TABLE>
while its true some high end models in both japan and europe were motorized, how do headlights that point exactly foward and have a vertical adjustment have bias?
when i aligned my jdm lights, they both make circular beams on the wall i used, and show no sign of favoring a certain side, just as my usdm lights didnt either before taking them off....
Just because it's OEM doesn't make it a great decision in putting them on your car,
esp. since the beam patterns are biased for RHD traffic and would blind oncoming drivers here in the states!
If you have an SiR front end, get the EDM glass lights instead; much cleaner, some were motorized for in-cabin adjustment.</TD></TR></TABLE>
while its true some high end models in both japan and europe were motorized, how do headlights that point exactly foward and have a vertical adjustment have bias?
when i aligned my jdm lights, they both make circular beams on the wall i used, and show no sign of favoring a certain side, just as my usdm lights didnt either before taking them off....
Good question. I was under the same impression as you until I researched this.
They shouldn't be perfectly straight. When properly spec'ed, the driver's side beam is a shorter projection and provides fill light for the road in the foreground. The passenger's side is a longer projection for objects in the distance. This setup prevents the blinding of oncoming traffic on the light closest to the median of the road and is a constant rule for LHD or RHD traffic regardless of where you are in the world.
You will not see that much of a difference in focal points when aligning them on a wall say, 6ft in front of your car. If you've adjusted vertical axis on your driver's side JDM light, I'll bet your light housing sits crooked and no longer flows with the lines of the car because of the amount of compensation you've had to dial in.
And all those crosshatches on the front lens of the housing? They aren't random either. They were designed to disperse the light further or diffuse light in a way that doesn't blind oncoming traffic and they will be different between LHD and RHD models.
I recently confirmed this crap from a DOT handbook because of a conflict with several local SF Valley BAR refs about this same issue. EF and DC JDM front ends are not DOT approved for this safety reason and are grounds for a dismissal from a BAR cert in CA.
According to DOT and CA-BAR, an aftermarket headlight for our car must:
1) be from the same material: ie glass for OEM glass or plastic for OEM plastic. (this would mean those EGay jobbies made from plastic are not DOT certified, only the APC glass units are- regardless they should be stamped DOT approved)
2) provide the same spec of light pattern dispersal as the OEM housing. If the lenses are clear and not crosshatched, they may be mandated to use a different kind of bulb and reflector to be DOT certified. You can't swap the innards. Upgrades such as HID are a no-go, even though they look sweet and are technically a useful upgrade in illumination.
The loophole would be to run an EDM spec light housing from a VT model made from glass and with the same bias for light dispersal as our LHD USDM lights.
BTW, they don't allow lowering your car off spec either for the same reason; changes in ride height equal changes in distance of light projection. Street cops are told to check for a minimum ride height of 3 inches clearance between the rocker panel & the ground before they issue a fix-it ticket.
Just passing this on for my CA Honda ppl.
They shouldn't be perfectly straight. When properly spec'ed, the driver's side beam is a shorter projection and provides fill light for the road in the foreground. The passenger's side is a longer projection for objects in the distance. This setup prevents the blinding of oncoming traffic on the light closest to the median of the road and is a constant rule for LHD or RHD traffic regardless of where you are in the world.
You will not see that much of a difference in focal points when aligning them on a wall say, 6ft in front of your car. If you've adjusted vertical axis on your driver's side JDM light, I'll bet your light housing sits crooked and no longer flows with the lines of the car because of the amount of compensation you've had to dial in.
And all those crosshatches on the front lens of the housing? They aren't random either. They were designed to disperse the light further or diffuse light in a way that doesn't blind oncoming traffic and they will be different between LHD and RHD models.
I recently confirmed this crap from a DOT handbook because of a conflict with several local SF Valley BAR refs about this same issue. EF and DC JDM front ends are not DOT approved for this safety reason and are grounds for a dismissal from a BAR cert in CA.
According to DOT and CA-BAR, an aftermarket headlight for our car must:
1) be from the same material: ie glass for OEM glass or plastic for OEM plastic. (this would mean those EGay jobbies made from plastic are not DOT certified, only the APC glass units are- regardless they should be stamped DOT approved)
2) provide the same spec of light pattern dispersal as the OEM housing. If the lenses are clear and not crosshatched, they may be mandated to use a different kind of bulb and reflector to be DOT certified. You can't swap the innards. Upgrades such as HID are a no-go, even though they look sweet and are technically a useful upgrade in illumination.
The loophole would be to run an EDM spec light housing from a VT model made from glass and with the same bias for light dispersal as our LHD USDM lights.
BTW, they don't allow lowering your car off spec either for the same reason; changes in ride height equal changes in distance of light projection. Street cops are told to check for a minimum ride height of 3 inches clearance between the rocker panel & the ground before they issue a fix-it ticket.
Just passing this on for my CA Honda ppl.
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