Aftermarket sway bars are a lil pricey for my budget right now. What other cars can I use sway bars off of? GSR, ITR? The thickest, the better. I have a 93 Civic Coupe.

 

I say use the ctr or itr sway bars the are built to last.

 

Asuming that you are refering to the rear sway bar? The thickest would be the 14mm GSR.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mugen18 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I say use the ctr or itr sway bars the are built to last.</TD></TR></TABLE>
This is not good avise If your subframe is anything like the EK you run a high risk of subframe tear-out with the larger 22/23 CTR/ITR sway bars without some sort of subframe bracing i.e. (ASR,Comptech,Suspension Techniques,Beaks)

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by patdow1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Asuming that you are refering to the rear sway bar? The thickest would be the 14mm GSR.


This is not good avise If your subframe is anything like the EK you run a high risk of subframe tear-out with the larger 22/23 CTR/ITR sway bars without some sort of subframe bracing i.e. (ASR,Comptech,Suspension Techniques,Beaks) </TD></TR></TABLE>

But see this is where your advice is bad. He DOESN'T have an EK so his subframe is alright. Though I wouldn't run a big bar on my eg without subframe reinforcement, he can run an ITR/CTR bar without any problems. As long as he doesn't do any hard road racing/AutoXing he'll be fine.

 

I run an 22mm ITR rear bar on my EG daily with no problems. I have heard that if you do not have stiffer suspension though that a large rear bar could potentially cause sub frame problems.

On the front of the car you can upgrade to a 24mm GSR or ITR sway

 

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If your subframe is anything like the EK you run a high risk of subframe tear-out with the larger 22/23 CTR/ITR sway bars without some sort of subframe bracing i.e. (ASR,Comptech,Suspension Techniques,Beaks) </TD></TR></TABLE>

How do you possibly see this as bad advise? I know he/she DOESN'T have a EK they posted that they have a 93 Civic Coupe. <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOHC4life 96 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Though I wouldn't run a big bar on my eg without subframe reinforcement, he can run an ITR/CTR bar without any problems. As long as he doesn't do any hard road racing/AutoXing he'll be fine.</TD></TR></TABLE>
This is misleading, help them out by giving a example of what is a big bar for a eg.

 

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This is misleading, help them out by giving a example of what is a big bar for a eg.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I generally go by anything over 22mm on an EG should have an ASR kit along with it or anything between 19&21 to get a beaks kit, most oem bars (with the exception of the type Rs) don't need any reinforcement. but some people only swear by the ASR kit. Just my opinion though. I've heard of people running the massive mugen 26 mm bar with no reinforcement....anyone wanna guess what quickly happened

also to the OP:
chances are you'll also need new LCAs if your car didn't come with a rear swaybar, and many aftermarket swaybars(front or rear) are nearly the same price as an OEM bar (after you buy all the brackets/endlinks)

 

Agreed

 

The beaks is ok for the eg, but not for th ek. Go with an ITR/beaks. You will not like the si/gsr sway. Save up if you cant afford it.

 

Thank you for the replies. The reason I'm on a budget right now cus I just upgraded/spent some $$$ on a set for 4 KYB AGX shocks and figured might as well upgrade the sway bars too if I'm going to redo all that suspension work. Should last me for awhile in the meantime while I save up for more engine mods, then back to suspension upgrades again. I can get sway bars at my local j-yard fairly cheaper than aftermarket ones, I just needed to know what fits and works. Thanks all so much for the help! If I remember correctly, I saw a 93 GSR with good sway bars at the j-yard. Will it work? Or would I need ones off a 94+ GSR?

P.S. In fact I didn't even realize if the Civic has sway bars or not. I will check tomorrow. Would this be a problem? Would the bolt holes be there for me to install a sway bar? It started off as a stock DX, now it's a mini-me beast with ported/polished head, chipped p28, ported/polished y8 mani, headers, the works....etc..etc...I started off with engine mods first and now getting into suspension mods with lowering springs and front/rear camber kit at the moment.

P.S.S. What do you guys think of this one off eBay?:

Modified by ICEMAN707 at 10:24 PM 5/26/2006


Modified by ICEMAN707 at 10:30 PM 5/26/2006

 

No, all the bolt holes are the same. I've only heard of 94+ tegs working on EGs but the DAs might fit...just never seen/heard of it being done. I would definately not reccomend that setup off of ebay. The problem with many cheaper parts is that they break and you have to replace them...with something as vital as the entire rear end of the car I wouldn't trust it to some money hungry 5th rate chinese company. Not sayin that it will happen, but again why risk it???

 

what are your experiences with upgraded bars? noticeable difference? worth the money?

 

my current setup on my 1993si hatchback is
front: stock 21mm sway bar
rear: jdm itr 98spec sway bar with beaks subframe reinforcement

on my 1995 gsr coupe
front: jdm itr 98spec 26mm sway bar
rear: jdm itr 98spec 23mm sway bar

 

i upgraded my suspension a and i def notice the diff.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HuskerHybrid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what are your experiences with upgraded bars? noticeable difference? worth the money? </TD></TR></TABLE>

I went from no rear bar to a blox 21mm and beaks kit, biggest improvement as far as cornering is concerned I've ever done.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOHC4life 96 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">But see this is where your advice is bad. He DOESN'T have an EK so his subframe is alright. Though I wouldn't run a big bar on my eg without subframe reinforcement, he can run an ITR/CTR bar without any problems. As long as he doesn't do any hard road racing/AutoXing he'll be fine.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Eh, don't be so sure. I recommend subframe reinforcement for the 22mm+ bars on non-Type-R chassis regardless of year - look what happened to a '94 Civic running a Comptech 22mm bar with no reinforcement plate: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1642590

A simple Beaks or BSQ mounting kit just isn't enough.

 

i've just fitted this sway bar set to my ek4 (jordon) and it's the ****! i think it's very well made.IT'S NOT MADE OF ****. and it's made a BIG difference to the handling. it stick like **** to a blankett.

 

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But see this is where your advice is bad. He DOESN'T have an EK so his subframe is alright. Though I wouldn't run a big bar on my eg without subframe reinforcement, he can run an ITR/CTR bar without any problems. As long as he doesn't do any hard road racing/AutoXing he'll be fine.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly what I was thinking.

 

found $200 ST blu sways f/r + stock Si sway is left on
looked for used BENEN upper bars & thats that &gt; riding on rails

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EK4Vti &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i've just fitted this sway bar set to my ek4 (jordon) and it's the ****! i think it's very well made.IT'S NOT MADE OF ****. and it's made a BIG difference to the handling. it stick like **** to a blankett. </TD></TR></TABLE>

You talking about this one?

 

OK I just found out that my 93 Coupe has no sway bars AT ALL. None in front, none in back. So what to do? I got an idea for the back by getting an ASR kit and new LCA's with endlink holes, but what do I need to do for the front to get a sway bar on there? The front looks empty too, I'm getting a tie bar and H-brace to beef it up. Help me out friends!

 

I believe you can only do one or the other as far as tie bar/H brace goes.

As far as the sway bar problems you have a few options:

-Get the ST swaybar(s) meant for cars without the swaybar holes(what I did for the front at least....still haven't installed it yet though)You can get them for about 275 if you get the front and rear together, and NO reinforcement would be needed
OR
-get front LCAs off of a car that has a swaybar and swap out the LCAs (such as an integra) then get an OEM or aftermarket swaybar mean for a car that had always had a swaybar you can get the whole package as cheap as 100

-Get Rear LCAs (either from a car that had a rear sway bar or aftermarket ones) and get some kind of reinforcement and a nice swaybar OEM or aftermarket. depending on which bar/reinforcement kit you get this would probally run around 3-500 (maybe more) (AGAIN&gt;&gt;&gt;I WOULD NEVER TRUST THAT EBAY DEAL!)

But swaybars are definatly one of the greatest handiling improvements you can do

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by broketuner-egb16a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I believe you can only do one or the other as far as tie bar/H brace goes.

As far as the sway bar problems you have a few options:

-Get the ST swaybar(s) meant for cars without the swaybar holes(what I did for the front at least....still haven't installed it yet though)You can get them for about 275 if you get the front and rear together, and NO reinforcement would be needed
OR
-get front LCAs off of a car that has a swaybar and swap out the LCAs (such as an integra) then get an OEM or aftermarket swaybar mean for a car that had always had a swaybar you can get the whole package as cheap as 100

-Get Rear LCAs (either from a car that had a rear sway bar or aftermarket ones) and get some kind of reinforcement and a nice swaybar OEM or aftermarket. depending on which bar/reinforcement kit you get this would probally run around 3-500 (maybe more) (AGAIN&gt;&gt;&gt;I WOULD NEVER TRUST THAT EBAY DEAL!)

But swaybars are definatly one of the greatest handiling improvements you can do
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So you're saying, for the front, I have 2 options:

*1) I can swap out the LCA's from a car that has a front sway bar. But would my EG coupe's frame have the threaded holes there for me to bolt up the sway bar D brackets to?

*2) If I don't do the sway bar approach, I can do away with an H-brace and tie bar combo?

Has anyone had experience with just all tie bars/strut bars? Is sway bar/strut bar a better combo in terms of handling?

Is there anything wrong with going for both like tie bar/strut bar combo for front and sway bar/strut bar for the back or vise versa?

THANKS FOR ALL THE ADVICE....should be riding on rails in no time!

This Suspension Techniques Speedtech setup looks promising, not sure if it comes with that subframe pictured: -- $378



Is that subframe supposed to go over the stock one?


Modified by ICEMAN707 at 11:20 AM 6/1/2006

 

the 92-95 ex and si both had front sway bars. The 92-95 ex 4dr had both front and rear swaybars. Also most acura intgras from 94-? had the correct front and rear sway bars and lower control arms. The integra GSR had the largest front and rear sway bars and will also work. You should be able to pick front and rear sway bars and lower control arms for around $100 from a junk yard

 

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So you're saying, for the front, I have 2 options:

*1) I can swap out the LCA's from a car that has a front sway bar. But would my EG coupe's frame have the threaded holes there for me to bolt up the sway bar D brackets to?

*2) If I don't do the sway bar approach, I can do away with an H-brace and tie bar combo


Modified by ICEMAN707 at 11:20 AM 6/1/2006</TD></TR></TABLE>

NO.I was saying that I'm almost positive that you can only do the tie bar or h brace not both, and yes either will work fine with the front swaybar