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Old Apr 13, 2002 | 07:29 AM
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Default Anyone who has done 4G rear brakes, i need some help

So I took my calpier and caliper mouting bracket off and i figured i would be able to slide the rotor on off, no such luck. i see 2 philips head screws going into the rotor but i am unsure if these hold the rotor on, i am not sure if i could get them off if i wanted to anyhow, because they are very tight. so shoudl the rotor be able to slide off with the caliper completly removed? or am i gonna have to beat the crap out of it will a large blunt object. thanks for the response, in advance...
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Old Apr 13, 2002 | 11:47 AM
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You need to take out those screws. Use an impact screwdriver.
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Old Apr 13, 2002 | 12:39 PM
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You are emilebrown on HP.com aren't you? I emialed you one time b/c I live near you. Anyway, I figured out that I need to get those screws out and got one out and striped the other, I think that I am gonna have to get out a drill, any tips or things to watch out for? Also I pressed the piston so that I could fir my new pads when I get the rotor off and when I was pressing in the piston, using a clamp it was very difficult and the piston rotated as I pressed it in. Is this normal, or should it have presses in without rotating and easily. for now i just put it all back together until i can borrow a drill.
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Old Apr 13, 2002 | 01:16 PM
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Default Re: Anyone who has done 4G rear brakes, i need some help (slowlude)

sometimes even the impact driver won't get them out. in this case just drill into the center of the bolt. once you get about a half inch in, the pressure should release and you'll be able to turn the screw with the screwdriver. then, take 2 bolts (can't remember what size) and screw them into the other 2 holes in the rotor. this will back the rotor out, removing it from the hub.
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Old Apr 13, 2002 | 03:20 PM
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Thanks man, I'll give that a try...
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Old Apr 13, 2002 | 04:21 PM
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yeah, I got your email. Sorry I didn't respond yet - I have been pretty damn busy with this turbo install. I finally finished though and drove it for the first time last night. Don't worry about that piston being hard to push it. That's the way its supposed to be, I even broke a clamp pushing them in.
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Old Apr 13, 2002 | 05:19 PM
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your supposed to turn it while you push it.. if you guys are just jamming the thing back in a giant clamp I'm surprised you aren't destroying your calipers. Time to buy a service manual!!
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Old Apr 13, 2002 | 05:35 PM
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Hmm, I was wondering why it was so hard. Under the replacing brake pads section though, the helm's just says "Push in the piston so that the caliper will fit over the pads." I just did my own brakes for the first time several months ago and was confused when I couldn't get them to go in at all. My dad told me just to use a c-clamp so thats what I did and my brakes still work perfectly fine. I'm not saying what I did wasn't completely wrong, but just that it worked.


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Old Apr 13, 2002 | 05:45 PM
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DONT PUSH THE REAR PISTONS IN WITH A CLAMP!! sorry .. just want to make that clear! All you have to do with the rear calipers is turn them in clockwise.. they will retract that way. Lube the piston boot with some silicone grease (caliper lube) to make sure it doesn't turn with the piston.
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Old Apr 13, 2002 | 09:15 PM
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Default Re: Anyone who has done 4G rear brakes, i need some help (kevie88)

Wow, that is news to me, thanks for the info. So do you think it matters that I jammed the piston in with a huge clamp, seeing as how it rotated on its own? In the future I'll try the rotating meathod, but I want to make sure that I didn't do any damage.
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Old Apr 13, 2002 | 09:40 PM
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yea, don't do that.....

As for getting the screws out, just get a punch and hammer and on the outside edge of the screw, use the punch to dig into the outside screw head, and "knock" the screw around counter clockwise, therefor backing the screw out... no drilling
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