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Old May 24, 2006 | 01:53 PM
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Any recomondations on which brand to go with? I upgraded my deck but the speakers just aren't pushing enough so I need to upgrade my speaker. Thanks fellas.
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Old May 24, 2006 | 02:02 PM
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im a huge fan of mb quart.. id spend the money.

even if you are on a small budget.. run something like the MB Quart Discus series.

let me know your budget, and what you want your system to be like in the end.

also, what kind of headunit are you using?
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Old May 24, 2006 | 02:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LSRracing95 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im a huge fan of mb quart.. id spend the money.

even if you are on a small budget.. run something like the MB Quart Discus series.

let me know your budget, and what you want your system to be like in the end.

also, what kind of headunit are you using?
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Whats up dude, thanks for the response. I have a Panasonic http://www.crutchfield.com/S-V...9901U head unit, like the one shown there. I heard good stuff about Polk audio and Alpine but Im not an audio guy so it doesn't mean anything to me. I DO NOT want to get subs or anything, just the front and rear speakers and maybe upgrade my stock tweeters. My budget...I would like to spend no more than $350. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks!
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Old May 24, 2006 | 03:13 PM
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if you arent going to be running any sub.. id probably go with infinity speakers, or maybe.. mayyyybe alpine.
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Old May 24, 2006 | 03:20 PM
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Any particular one I should look for?
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Old May 24, 2006 | 05:00 PM
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Go with the Alpine Type-s 6.5s or Pioneer 6.5s. The pioneer speakers are just as good and the price is right if you are on a budget. 2ways in the doors and 3ways in the rear should be fine. That should cost you around $150 for the 2 sets of speakers.
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Old May 24, 2006 | 05:09 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, there are two 6.5" in the front, two tweeters and two 6.5" rear? Is it $150 for all?
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Old May 24, 2006 | 06:02 PM
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6.5s w/tweeters in the front and 6.5 coaxials in the rear. It will be roughly around $150. If ur in So.Cal I can get them for you.
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Old May 24, 2006 | 07:46 PM
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Yea, im from SoCal, Long Beach area. Are they new? What brand/model?
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Old May 24, 2006 | 08:01 PM
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dont but pioneer. the quality is not the same as infinity. you can get pioneer at your local wal mart.

i would vouch for infinity without running any subwoofer.

the 6.5 component set up front, and maybe even another 6.5 component set for the rear (without running the tweeter, just using the woofers from the set)

id really recommend at least amplifying the speakers, youll really get a different feel about their sound potential that way.. also more tuning options, etc. as well as more power going to each speaker.
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Old May 24, 2006 | 08:06 PM
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I really do not know much about audio systems, if you could give me a list on what you recommend w/ a link to it (including amplifer also) so i can check it out. that would be great
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Old May 25, 2006 | 02:33 PM
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Any reason you are so opposed to a sub? You can't really have a full sounding system without one.
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Old May 25, 2006 | 03:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SWE3TDUDE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I really do not know much about audio systems, if you could give me a list on what you recommend w/ a link to it (including amplifer also) so i can check it out. that would be great</TD></TR></TABLE> What do you have now? what kind of music do you listen to? how loud do you want to play the music?
I have a 94 LS with an Alpine HU and 4 Eclipse 6.5" 2ways, [tweeters disconnected on the rears]... http://www.eclipse-web.com I did spend a fair amount of time and effort installing the speakers to get the best possible sound out of them. but other then a foot of 16ga speaker wire on the rears ans a 12ga power wire run from the batt to behind the HU for the HUs constant power, [yellow] all other wiring is stock. I get very good SQ, and descent bass response, [F3 point].

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by a_s_ol_ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Any reason you are so opposed to a sub? You can't really have a full sounding system without one.</TD></TR></TABLE> Sure you can. 94
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Old May 25, 2006 | 03:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fcm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Sure you can. 94</TD></TR></TABLE>

At what cost to someone who can't install themselves?

To get decent bass response out of 6.5's, imo you need either a full mdf enclosure in the door or a fully dynamatted door. Neither of which are cheap for said people. Depending on how cheap you go, by the time you do those you can get a decent sub setup
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Old May 25, 2006 | 05:28 PM
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i say go alpine deff worth the money, i love my alpine type s speakers i run 6.5's in the front and 6x9's in the back and the sound is very decent with no sub, my sub will be installed in a few days but since u need 6.5's ill reccomend the ones i have sps-170a you can get 4 pretty cheap 2 pairs on ebay would run u around 120 bucks. but i reccomend a sub the sound is so much better.
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Old May 25, 2006 | 05:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fcm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Sure you can. 94</TD></TR></TABLE>

no you cant. please show me a component set that will play down to 20hz

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I have a 94 LS with an Alpine HU and 4 Eclipse 6.5" 2ways, [tweeters disconnected on the rears]... http://www.eclipse-web.com </TD></TR></TABLE>

ahhh..wouldn't be one of FCM's post without that little gem.
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Old May 26, 2006 | 09:46 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by a_s_ol_ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

At what cost to someone who can't install themselves?

To get decent bass response out of 6.5's, imo you need either a full mdf enclosure in the door or a fully dynamatted door. Neither of which are cheap for said people. Depending on how cheap you go, by the time you do those you can get a decent sub setup </TD></TR></TABLE> Didn't say it had no cost, in fact I said a "fair amount of time and effort".

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EBP_SI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no you cant. please show me a component set that will play down to 20hz</TD></TR></TABLE> Also never said you could get down to 20hz, a_s_ol_ said you can't have a full sounding system without a sub, not, you can't get down to 20hz, I believe you can get a "full "sounding system without a sub, I believe the system in my teg is "full" sounding, I am happy with it, it sounds pretty damn good, for a system without subs or amps, so when people ask, I tell them what I have, and that it works for me.
So please tell me what the expletive your problem is with me telling people what I have and how it was done, because this is not the first time you have made some smart *** remark about it when I have mentioned it? 94
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Old May 26, 2006 | 09:57 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by a_s_ol_ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">To get decent bass response out of 6.5's, imo you need either a full mdf enclosure in the door or a fully dynamatted door. Neither of which are cheap for said people. Depending on how cheap you go, by the time you do those you can get a decent sub setup </TD></TR></TABLE> You are correct, and I agree, you have to have custom MDF speaker mounts in the doors with a fully Dynamated doors, and custom fiberglass and MDF housings in the rear, also Dynamating, and yes not cheap, probably in excess of $1000 in labour alone if you have someone else do it, and another $200-$300 in material, and yes you are also correct that that would get you a "decent sub setup" in fact it would get you a very decent sub setup.

But then if you don't want a "sub setup" then what other option do you have? 94
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Old May 27, 2006 | 08:36 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fcm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Also never said you could get down to 20hz, a_s_ol_ said you can't have a full sounding system without a sub, not, you can't get down to 20hz, I believe you can get a "full "sounding system without a sub, I believe the system in my teg is "full" sounding, I am happy with it, it sounds pretty damn good, for a system without subs or amps, so when people ask, I tell them what I have, and that it works for me.
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Well i dont see how it can be full sounding if your missing the whole bottom portion of the frequency range. I would hardly call a component set with a touch of midbass full sounding.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fcm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So please tell me what the expletive your problem is with me telling people what I have and how it was done, because this is not the first time you have made some smart *** remark about it when I have mentioned it? 94</TD></TR></TABLE>

You're just very repetitive in how you mention what your setup is and you always seem to attach the link to eclipse like you have a a financial interest in the company. I dont necessarily care what you have, i'm just busting ***** about how often you mention this.
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Old May 27, 2006 | 09:39 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EBP_SI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Well i dont see how it can be full sounding if your missing the whole bottom portion of the frequency range. I would hardly call a component set with a touch of midbass full sounding. </TD></TR></TABLE> Well I guess "full sounding" is in the ear of the beholder.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EBP_SI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You're just very repetitive in how you mention what your setup is and you always seem to attach the link to eclipse like you have a a financial interest in the company. I dont necessarily care what you have, i'm just busting ***** about how often you mention this.</TD></TR></TABLE> Repetitive? Yea I guess I am, but then how can I not be, it is the same system that has been in the car for years, nothing has changed, same HU, same speakers, same custom work, and is still works very well, more then good enough for me, I have done all the other stuff before in my other cars, take a guess how many systems, I have put in the 4 cars I have had in the last 35 years, [before the teg] in fact the teg is the first one that the only change was a HU upgrade from its original aftermarket system.
As for linking to Eclipse, what would you suggest, maybe I should link to Hertz, they are a better speaker then Eclipse, but then I don't have Hertz in my car, I have Eclipse.

No I do not have a financial interest in the company, we do not even carry the line anymore, but it is what I have, and they are still working very well after 7 years, why wouldn't I link to them? 94
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