1) Wheel well liners
2) Plastic liners under trans, rad, etc.
3) Rear wiper assy
4) Windshield washer fluid res/pump/lines
5) Mud flaps

I'm still waiting on my GCR that I've already ordered, so I wanted to make sure none of this stuff had to stay. I'll add more later as things come up (and out). Thanks!

 

What class?

 

1) Wheel well liners -Removable
2) Plastic liners under trans, rad, etc. -Removable
3) Rear wiper assy -Has to stay, came with all Si, all years.
4) Windshield washer fluid res/pump/lines -Must stay (check IT.com archives for a fun discussion on this)
5) Mud flaps -Removable

 

Are you sure about #2? I don't recall seeing rules that allowed removal of undertrays. Otehrwise, correct for IT cars.

 

Sorry...ITA.

Thanks for the replies. I guess I'll leave that stupid washer bottle in for the time being. At least I don't have to have anything in it (or do I? LOL).

What about headlights?

 

im intreptreting that under 8e. ...Engine compartment insulation may be removed.

Although, to be honest, im not quite sure its a benefit to remove it aerodynamically... but whatever. minimal difference at best.

Headlights definately stay in. Gotta tape those up, and taillights. (In case they break, its easier to clean up if theyre stuck together, we dont race in the dark)





[Modified by Tyson, 5:25 PM 4/12/2002]

 

Yea, that's what I thought. I just wanted to make sure.

As for the plastic trays, I only asked because a couple of mine are broken or missing bolts, and I wanted to see if it was worth fixing or if I should just take them out.

Next, am I correct that I can remove EVERYTHING associated with the sunroof, or no?

 

As long as you weld or bolt the roof in, then all the slide mechanism and motor stuff can go.

 

Hmmm... they sure can for enduros!

 

Having never thought about it very hard before, I have looked and can't find any allowance to remove those plastic panels under the engine compartment. The insulation thing seems to be a stretch but...

Kirk

(edit - I'm a ******. I read "headliner", not headlights. Never mind.)


[Modified by Knestis, 2:41 AM 4/13/2002]

 

haha. he said ******.

 

If it's not for fuel, spark, or compression throw it the fawk out!



Warren

 

hey old geezer, really? if its not engine insulation, what is it? top running ita driver told me to toss that stuff, and if there was anything his competitors could check him on, they would have. so in any case, i guess my region doesnt care about that.

 

Okay, I'm still waiting on my GCR, and I have a ton of interior stuff sitting around in my garage (taking up a LOT of room). I would like to get rid of as much of it as I can, but I don't want to sell anything that can't be legally removed (it would suck to have to buy stuff I just sold). I have been reading as much as I can in the rules and regs forum at IT.com, but I'm at a disadvantage with no GCR yet. So I have one simple request/question for you IT guys:

Please list the interior parts (for a CRX Si if you know) that are expressely listed as removable under any conditions. I know parts of the dash can be removed for cage install and other "soft" rules like that, but I'm just interested in the cold, hard facts. Things I want most to get rid of are the "back seat" components (hinged panel boards), large plastic panels on the sides/rear/hatch, headliner, all carpet, a-pillars, and e-brake cover. That's the bulk of it. I'll deal with things like the center console/dash/door panels/etc. later since there is some case-by-case decisions to be made there as the cage goes in. Thanks for any help!!

 

The easiest way is if your cage is conveniently in the way of things.

Warren

 

Is that true of everything, or just the dash/console area? It can't be true that there is no place in the rule book that says something like "the plastic panels lining the trunk/hatch may be removed, along with the carpet and rear seat."

 

ITCS 9.g - "Carpets, center consoles, floor mats, headliners, sun roof liner and frame, dome lights, grab handles, and their insulating, attaching or operating mechanisms may be removed. Door interior trim panels may be replaced with 0.060" aluminum securely attached to the door. All other interior trim panels, except the dashboard, may be removed. Other than to provide for the installation of required safety equipment or other authorized modifications, no other driver/passenger compartment alterations or gutting are permitted. The driver's door window glass, window operating mechanism, and inside door latch/lock operating mechanism may be removed and the inner door structural panel may be modified, but not removed. The stock side impact beam, if equipped, and the outside door latch/lock mechanism shall not be removed or modified. This gutting of the door shall only be made to the driver's door and shall only be made if roll cage incorporates NASCAR-style side protection extending into the door."

Have fun!

Kirk (redeeming wankerhood)

 

that pretty much answers it all. so just keep the forward dash and the rest can all come out. including the center console if you so wish desire. also remember that you have the minimum weight to keep. The drivers window may be removed, but not the passenger side. Theres another interesting discussion on IT.com on that as well.

 

Excellent! Thanks, guys. So it looks like everything that I have removed for cleaning/painting can just stay out for good, which means I can sell it and forget about it. Maybe I'll even see some of that garage space back again

As for minimum weight, we'll see when we get there. I still have large things like the AC system to remove, so there's plenty of weight. If it gets too light, I'll just add to the cage. I'm not really focusing on weight reduction just yet.

For the CRX, the center console refers to the e-brake cover only, correct? The only other part that could be considered console is attached to the dash, and I'll be removing that to facilitate a dash bar and gauges, as the rules allow.

Thanks again for the help! Hopefully my GCR will get here soon.

I've been reading anything and everything at IT.com, and I swear that every online IT racer is a lawyer too. Those guys just argue and argue about sections and rules and loopholes. It's actually interesting on a certain level because it shows a willingness to actually follow the rules, which many people do not, but I don't even get started on that Still, it's hard for me to follow along without the rule book.

 

Center console includes the stereo and climate control and shift boot. which can all come out as well.

 

Oh, good. That means I don't have to make sure the dash bar and gauges get in the way

 

Okay, new round of questions (I'm still waiting for my rule book from SCCA!).

Can I remove:
-wires to dome light
-wires to sun roof motor
-drain tubes from sunroof area down pillars
-stereo wires, climate control wires, cig lighter wires
-clock and center vents for gauge install
-ALL sound material (black tar and thick padded firewall cloth/rubber)
-insulation from under hood
-all parts to the OEM seatbelt from both sides

Thanks for any help!! These questions will go away once I get my rulebook, but I have no idea how long that could take and I need to keep moving. Thanks!


[Modified by ITR#231, 6:30 PM 4/21/2002]

 

Nope, wiring harness stays intact (unless it's a valid updatre/backdate). Just make sure the wires are not hot. If you really want to yuank the stuff, make sure to bundle it up and put it in the glove box.

Not sure, but I wouldn't bother unless I was 100% sure the roof is sealed. Nothing worse than a musty car on a 90* day.

Clock, yes. Vent, no.

Yes.

Not sure. Probably.

Yes.

 

Thanks CM. Some follow-up questions based on your answers:

If I can't remove any of the wires, can I at least move them? For example, could I move the wires going up the a-pillar to the dome light and sunroof down under the dash? It would only require unclipping them and pulling them back under the dash. Then I can bundle them all up in one place. Is that legal? Also, can I pull the fuses to all of that stuff so that the wires don't get damaged and short something?

The roof likely won't be completely sealed. Still, with the sunroof rails and sliding mechanism removed, the tubes don't attach to anything anyway (so there's nothing for them to drain). They're just sitting there being stupid.

Everything else was lound and clear. Thanks!