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Old May 20, 2006 | 05:21 PM
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ok so i sm sure this has been covered but whats the best swap for my money, dohc zc, or a b16 SiR first gen. i know he b16 has more power, but what will need changed to do this other then motor mounts and axels. also is a dohc zc truly a direct bolt in same mounts and axels? PLZ HELP ME!!!
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Old May 20, 2006 | 05:32 PM
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Yah a dohc zc is a direct bolt in swap. In your case though, your hubs need to be changed to dx or si ones. The zc axles, or any b-series axles, are to too big to fit your standard hubs. The zc is a good motor but you have to convert to mpfi. Once you convert it over you could also run a b16 and it would be quicker but more expensive too. With the b16 you would need ecu, mounts, axles, shiftlinkage and of course the hubs. Any questions?
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Old May 20, 2006 | 05:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thevtecnician &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yah a dohc zc is a direct bolt in swap. In your case though, your hubs need to be changed to dx or si ones. The zc axles, or any b-series axles, are to too big to fit your standard hubs. The zc is a good motor but you have to convert to mpfi. Once you convert it over you could also run a b16 and it would be quicker but more expensive too. With the b16 you would need ecu, mounts, axles, shiftlinkage and of course the hubs. Any questions?</TD></TR></TABLE>

He does not need to change his axles or his hubs or his transmission if he does a ZC swap. I did it and just bought the longblock. All your stock **** will bolt up!
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Old May 20, 2006 | 05:57 PM
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ok, so say i go with the zc, and i want to put a header and aftermarket flywheel and clutch where can i get that stuff at?
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Old May 20, 2006 | 06:05 PM
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You use d-series parts forthe zc motor. However the d-series header WILL fit on the zc but the ports on the head are slightly offlined with the d-series headers and should be ported to match. Yah you don't need to change your hubs unless you use the zc tranny.its probably best to use the zc tranny cuz it has good gearing. Well, I redlined my fifth gear at 130 on the highway.
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Old May 20, 2006 | 06:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thevtecnician &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Yah you don't need to change your hubs unless you use the zc tranny.its probably best to use the zc tranny cuz it has good gearing. Well, I redlined my fifth gear at 130 on the highway.</TD></TR></TABLE>

To use the ZC tranny you will need Civic DX, Si hubs and DA integra axles with the dust sheilds removed from the hub and axle.
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Old May 20, 2006 | 06:10 PM
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so if i use the zc tranny i have to change only my hubs? not axels?
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Old May 20, 2006 | 06:19 PM
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what about the ecu?
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Old May 20, 2006 | 06:38 PM
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No. When u use the zc tranny you have to use 88-89 axles from the integra. You could use the si civic/crx ecu but the redline is a little low at 6800. The stock redline on the zc is 7200. Just getta zc ecu with the swap
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Old May 20, 2006 | 07:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thevtecnician &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No. When u use the zc tranny you have to use 88-89 axles from the integra. You could use the si civic/crx ecu but the redline is a little low at 6800. The stock redline on the zc is 7200. Just getta zc ecu with the swap</TD></TR></TABLE>

You need 90-93 Integra axles if using the ZC trans.
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Old May 20, 2006 | 07:38 PM
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Go B-series. It's not a direct bolt in, but you will be happier with it. I got myself a B18B that runs great for $150. Just keep an eye out at local yards or friends who may know friends with spare motors they need to get rid of. Get yourself some hasport mounts with shift linkage, and the 90-91 integra intermediate shaft. If you can get your hands on a jdm b16 transmission, you will be even happier with that LS motor. I have a B16 longblock lying around if you have $500 and are willing to pick it up.
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