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Old May 19, 2006 | 07:17 PM
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Alright, so I finally got my car running, but now im having another problem. The car idles around 1,000-1,200 rpm (I know its a lil rich). It runs fine from 1,500rpm to about 3,500 in each gear, but when I try to go any higher, it almost "cuts out" and the car bucks real real hard and no matter how hard I hit the gas pedal, I cant get it past 3,500rpm. It'll boost about 1-2psi, since boost kicks in around 3k. Also, after driving for abit, my temps go ridiculously high - almost off the chart. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

<u>the setup</u>:
gt28r turbo internally wastegated @ 7psi
d16y8 (p2p)
innovate motorsports lc-1 wideband
chipped p28 with uberdata
390cc dsm injectors

<u>the map</u>:

Heres the map currently on the car (need uberdata)

http://www.socaltuners.com/con...3.bin

thanks for any help
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Old May 19, 2006 | 07:36 PM
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You might be way to lean past 3500rpm. What AFRs are you getting at normal cruising?
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Old May 19, 2006 | 09:01 PM
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who did the ecu??? are u shure its not in limp mode??? cuz it sounds liek it to me.. any cel's???
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Old May 19, 2006 | 09:18 PM
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plan and simple get it tuned.
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Old May 19, 2006 | 10:08 PM
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hi, i just wandered into the civic section, but i had a similar problem, i couldn't get the car over 3-4k rpm's, it would just stay there, i don't think it has to do with with boost, for me i took off the two wire clips that are by the throttle body and intake manifold and switched them by accident, they both had the same size plug and fit into the other clips, once i found out they were backwards, it fixed the problem- hope that helps
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Old May 19, 2006 | 10:47 PM
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I made the initial basemap & im trying to tune it. Closed loop is disabled and im getting a cel#16 - i think..its running 15.8:1 normal cruising..
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Old May 19, 2006 | 10:57 PM
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Set your goal for 14.7. 15.8 is really ******* lean.
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Old May 20, 2006 | 09:54 AM
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usually... if your throwing a code for fuel injectors.. it will go into limp mode... i didnt know anything about the resister box back in the day and i got prelude injectors from the b20 motor and it went into limp mode..
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Old May 20, 2006 | 07:53 PM
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same thing happened to my hatch.. turned out the fuel pump was pushin out enough to keep up with the turbo..
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Old May 21, 2006 | 01:11 PM
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**UPDATE**

its going into limp mode because of CEL #16, fuel injectors, basically the car knows the injectors arent right. Its obd2 converted to obd1 with a chipped p28 running uber, any ideas on how to fix this? ive double tripple checked the wiring and have a resistor box in place...
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Old May 21, 2006 | 01:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sk8shorty012 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">**UPDATE**

its going into limp mode because of CEL #16, fuel injectors, basically the car knows the injectors arent right. Its obd2 converted to obd1 with a chipped p28 running uber, any ideas on how to fix this? ive double tripple checked the wiring and have a resistor box in place...</TD></TR></TABLE>

No I have the same setup as far as going obd2-obd1 running 450s with no problem. Did you change the injectors on uberdata from 240 to 390? Or your wiring is wrong somehow check them again.
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Old May 21, 2006 | 01:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EK-TSOHCV-TaKRider &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

No I have the same setup as far as going obd2-obd1 running 450s with no problem. Did you change the injectors on uberdata from 240 to 390? Or your wiring is wrong somehow check them again.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah, the injectors are changed via uberdata, unless there is something else I need to mark off, im not sure if running in closed loop / open loop would have an affect. So then if not uber, the only other possibility is the wiring? Can the resistor pack be from obd0? does it matter? &lt;-- doesnt think so...
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Old May 21, 2006 | 01:36 PM
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No resistor box shouldnt matter, I have the same one. Also open loop and closed loop will not cause that problem either. Make sure you have the right injector plugs on the right cylinder.
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Old May 21, 2006 | 01:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EK-TSOHCV-TaKRider &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No resistor box shouldnt matter, I have the same one. Also open loop and closed loop will not cause that problem either. Make sure you have the right injector plugs on the right cylinder. </TD></TR></TABLE>

have a chart or somethin I can verify it against?


**EDIT &gt; wouldnt it not turn over if the plugs were in the wrong order? Thats the initial problem I had when it wouldnt turn over, but crank**
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Old May 21, 2006 | 02:13 PM
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cyl#1=brown
cyl#2=red
cyl#3=blue
cyl#4=yellow

It will turn over and might start but will idle like crap and run like crap.
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Old May 21, 2006 | 02:16 PM
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just double checked it, and its got the right order.

1) the plugs are off a 90-93 integra, as long as they fit on the injector its fine right?

2) the primary 02 wouldnt cause the cel16 would it?
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Old May 21, 2006 | 02:29 PM
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How about if you disable the injector test option on uber??

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Old May 21, 2006 | 02:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EK-TSOHCV-TaKRider &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How about if you disable the injector test option on uber??

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you mean if I check "injector test disable"?, cause right now its not checked.
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Old May 21, 2006 | 02:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sk8shorty012 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you mean if I check "injector test disable"?, cause right now its not checked.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yup disable it.
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Old May 21, 2006 | 02:42 PM
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Just double checked the only option to run uber on a p28 that you need checked off is to disable the knock sensor. So leave the injector test unchecked.
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Old May 21, 2006 | 02:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EK-TSOHCV-TaKRider &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just double checked the only option to run uber on a p28 that you need checked off is to disable the knock sensor. So leave the injector test unchecked.</TD></TR></TABLE>

hmm, so any other ideas?
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Old May 21, 2006 | 02:49 PM
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try switching over to 240cc injectors, the 390s might be bad. Just a thought.
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Old May 21, 2006 | 03:01 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EK-TSOHCV-TaKRider &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">try switching over to 240cc injectors, the 390s might be bad. Just a thought.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Sounds like you might have bad injectors (as stated above). good luck.
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Old May 21, 2006 | 03:03 PM
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anything else? the injectors were cleaned and flow tested...

plus the same indcident happened to a buddy of mine who buddy dsm 450cc into his civic & he too has yet to figure it out...
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Old May 21, 2006 | 03:13 PM
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You guys might be doing something wrong in the install, since so many have this setup with out a prob. Try switching to crome if you need a basemap let me know.
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