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Old May 18, 2006 | 03:21 PM
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I CAN'T get this thing off by hand. I've already broken a few extension bars and screwdrivers. The problem is that my civic is a DX, and doesn't come with the hexagonal pulley that you can use the "harmonic balance pulley tool" on to keep the pulley from turning when you torque the bolt off.



I'm willing to bite bullet and get an impact wrench...or at least find someone who has one. But how will the pulley be held in place to keep the engine from turning over?
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Old May 18, 2006 | 03:27 PM
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have someone hold the brakes
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Old May 18, 2006 | 03:28 PM
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impact
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Old May 18, 2006 | 03:29 PM
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invest in air, best choice you could ever make.
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Old May 18, 2006 | 03:30 PM
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get somebody in the car....have them put it in reverse or first and put the brakes down so the car doesn't move at all...and neither iwll ur crank/pulley

Take a breaker bar with a long handle and set it right up..if still not go, put a piece of PVC piping on the end of it to extend ur leverage and have another shot at it...

You'd be very surprised how VERY effective this method is and how many people including me it hasn't failed at all and you'd also be suprised how much torque u get with a long as breaker bar...

Screw the special tools...they don't work

Whatever u do don't do the screwdriver in the flywheel to stop the engine from moving, I've seen people lose flywheel teeth like that...somebody in the car, in gear, on the brakes, and ur good to go, gl
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Old May 18, 2006 | 03:36 PM
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Yeah...my other problem is that my car's an automatic. I already tried pressing the brakes in drive/park/neutral. The crank turns every time!

I AM willing to go impact...but I'm afraid I'll have the same problem with the engine turning over.
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Old May 18, 2006 | 05:53 PM
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use a chain vise around the crank pulley to hold it tight and breaker bar
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Old May 18, 2006 | 05:59 PM
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IMPACT! Best bet. And a great investment.
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Old May 18, 2006 | 06:20 PM
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With impact it generally hits to hard and so quickly the engine won't be able to turn over. That's the hope, at least.
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Old May 18, 2006 | 06:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Luserkid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">invest in air, best choice you could ever make. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes it is the best investment you can make. wont work all the time but %90 it will.
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Old May 18, 2006 | 08:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SVOboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">With impact it generally hits to hard and so quickly the engine won't be able to turn over. That's the hope, at least.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Alright. I'm gonna go with the impact wrench then. Anyone else wanna confirm that SVOboy is right about this? Thanks for the help ppl.
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Old May 18, 2006 | 09:08 PM
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i have a dx crank pulley and i have the same tool. works fine for me everytime .... i'm pretty sure all honda crank pulleys have the thing for the tool, are you sure about that?
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Old May 19, 2006 | 03:09 PM
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impact wrench is the next thing I'd try, do what SVO boy said.....after taht, iono, because I don't have any experience using that "crank pulley tool" -- didn't even know one existed till I came on ht and even then never used one nor looked into one
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Old May 19, 2006 | 05:05 PM
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borrow an electric impact if you know some1 that has one
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Old May 19, 2006 | 05:44 PM
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take out the starter and
block the flywheel with a screwdriver .
use a long tube to "extend" your wrench .
hope you understood what i was trying to say
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Old May 19, 2006 | 05:57 PM
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Electric or Pneumatic impact will definately do the job. Might take like 5 mins but you will get it.
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Old May 19, 2006 | 07:43 PM
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I jus want someone to explain how holding the brakes is going to keep the crank from turning???
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Old May 19, 2006 | 07:54 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by C-Style &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">take out the starter and
block the flywheel with a screwdriver .
use a long tube to "extend" your wrench .
hope you understood what i was trying to say
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thats what i did, lol along with the impact gun and some liquid wrench ****
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Old May 19, 2006 | 08:35 PM
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question, if this thing is so hard to get off, how hard is it to put on
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Old May 19, 2006 | 09:18 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by The Internet Tough Guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have a dx crank pulley and i have the same tool. works fine for me everytime .... i'm pretty sure all honda crank pulleys have the thing for the tool, are you sure about that?</TD></TR></TABLE>

no they dont ill show u mine
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Old May 20, 2006 | 05:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by The Internet Tough Guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have a dx crank pulley and i have the same tool. works fine for me everytime .... i'm pretty sure all honda crank pulleys have the thing for the tool, are you sure about that?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yup. DX crank pulley is just round on the inside. The EX pulley (and apparently yours too for some reason) looks like this:



Mine unfortunately doesn't have the 6 hexagonal sides around the bolt. Which basically renders the harmonic balancer tool worthless.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xhatchracerx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">use a chain vise around the crank pulley to hold it tight and breaker bar</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wyte_civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
chain wrench and guns.. i mean muscles </TD></TR></TABLE>

So you put a chain wrench around the pulley? Isn't that going to bend or mess up the grooves for the belt? Tearing belts is not a good thing. But a chain wrench is way less expensive than an impact wrench...both of which I'll probably only use once. How did you use the chain wrench??
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Old May 20, 2006 | 06:58 PM
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I jus want someone to explain how holding the brakes is going to keep the crank from turning???

rofl.... i was gonna ask the same question.

i've had my share of removing honda crank pullies. i used a chain clamp and a long breaker bar or with a long pipe to extend my ratchet.

the chain clamp looks like a vise grip with a long bicycle chain attached to it. and u clamp it around the pulley and ratchet away
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Old May 20, 2006 | 07:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Honda Civic DX Guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">question, if this thing is so hard to get off, how hard is it to put on</TD></TR></TABLE>
It's no harder to put on than any other bolt - you just have to torque it to the correct value. I forget the exact value (my Helms is in the car), but I remember thinking I'd have to buy a new torque wrench to reach it. Procedure to put it on is no different than the procedure to take it off.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by C-Style &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">take out the starter and
block the flywheel with a screwdriver .
use a long tube to "extend" your wrench .
hope you understood what i was trying to say
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I've seen people crack their bell housing using that method. Whatever you do, don't use that method.
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Old May 20, 2006 | 07:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SlushyFerio &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I jus want someone to explain how holding the brakes is going to keep the crank from turning??? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Simple. We drive cars with real transmissions, not slushboxes.
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Old May 21, 2006 | 04:29 AM
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Bump. Just wanna know about the chain wrench. Can't IM anyone because of this stupid trial version policy I'm under til early june.
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