Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000) EG/EH/EJ/EK/EM1 Discussion

Just bought an EG with B16 running a P72 ECU, what is the best ECU to run in this setup?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 16, 2006 | 11:56 PM
  #1  
jdm_bones's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 9,609
Likes: 0
From: Cartagena, Colombia
Default Just bought an EG with B16 running a P72 ECU, what is the best ECU to run in this setup?

Ok, the B16HMO is running a P72, and it seems to be running to rich....What is the best ECU to run in a B16, and what would be the stock ECU for a B16? If it helps the B16 is OBD1....thanks!
Reply
Old May 17, 2006 | 12:17 AM
  #2  
broketuner-Sol_Si's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 9,872
Likes: 0
From: 805, CA, US
Default Re: Just bought an EG with B16 running a P72 ECU, what is the best ECU to run in this setup? (jdm_bo

well the best ecu for that motor would be a p30(because it is the right one). but yes a p72 will run fine. I have one for my b16 that's tuned on crome pro and if I want(which I'm doing right now because of gas prices )I have the option of switching it back to the stock program (because it has a switch on the side...got it @ hookups). It runs fine on the stock, but much nicer on the tune .
Reply
Old May 17, 2006 | 12:27 AM
  #3  
jdm_bones's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 9,609
Likes: 0
From: Cartagena, Colombia
Default Re: Just bought an EG with B16 running a P72 ECU, what is the best ECU to run in this setup? (jdm_bo

Cool, I kind of want the stock for right now just cuz, I am going to try to get it Bar'd...thank for your in put...One more question, what is the difference between the two ECU's redline and VTEC engagement?
Reply
Old May 17, 2006 | 01:05 AM
  #4  
broketuner-Sol_Si's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 9,872
Likes: 0
From: 805, CA, US
Default Re: Just bought an EG with B16 running a P72 ECU, what is the best ECU to run in this setup? (jdm_bo

I honestly don't know the difference, but getting BARd you will need the p30 ECU. but when you go to get BARd make sure of these things:
good/new cat
good/new O2 sensor
fresh oil change
use the "gauranteed to pass" stuff
do a tune up and have all the wiring look OEM or better

But the most important thing is that the motor has to be the year of the car or newer
Reply
Old May 17, 2006 | 01:15 AM
  #5  
jdm_bones's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 9,609
Likes: 0
From: Cartagena, Colombia
Default Re: Just bought an EG with B16 running a P72 ECU, what is the best ECU to run in this setup? (jdm_bo

Thanks already started gathering all of the above...I am also going to try seafoam, I hered that stuff creates miricals...the EG is a 95 and the motor is a 99...It has stock exhuast, but has a SRI, I have a stock air box out of my 99 LS I hope it fits...I also has stock B16 headers, do you know if I need the Heat shield over the stock headers for Bar exam?
Reply
Old May 17, 2006 | 01:33 AM
  #6  
jdm_bones's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 9,609
Likes: 0
From: Cartagena, Colombia
Default Re: Just bought an EG with B16 running a P72 ECU, what is the best ECU to run in this setup? (jdm_bo

Correction the motor is a 96'
Reply
Old May 17, 2006 | 01:34 AM
  #7  
BlueIntegraBoy's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 23,967
Likes: 9
From: Las Vegas
Default Re: Just bought an EG with B16 running a P72 ECU, what is the best ECU to run in this setup? (jdm_bo

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdm_bones &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Cool, I kind of want the stock for right now just cuz, I am going to try to get it Bar'd...thank for your in put...One more question, what is the difference between the two ECU's redline and VTEC engagement?</TD></TR></TABLE>

P30 & P72
- Same redline
- One x-over at 4400 (P72) and the other at 5500 (P30)
Reply
Old May 17, 2006 | 01:39 AM
  #8  
jdm_bones's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 9,609
Likes: 0
From: Cartagena, Colombia
Default Re: Just bought an EG with B16 running a P72 ECU, what is the best ECU to run in this setup? (jdm_bo

Are you sure a P72 GSR ECU VTEC engagement is 4400, cause on a stock GSR it engages at 5500 and redlines at 8100
Reply
Old May 17, 2006 | 01:52 AM
  #9  
BlueIntegraBoy's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 23,967
Likes: 9
From: Las Vegas
Default Re: Just bought an EG with B16 running a P72 ECU, what is the best ECU to run in this setup? (jdm_bo

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdm_bones &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are you sure a P72 GSR ECU VTEC engagement is 4400, cause on a stock GSR it engages at 5500 and redlines at 8100</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes. VTEC engages pretty quietly, you hear the secondaries open up.
Reply
Old May 17, 2006 | 01:59 AM
  #10  
jdm_bones's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 9,609
Likes: 0
From: Cartagena, Colombia
Default Re: Just bought an EG with B16 running a P72 ECU, what is the best ECU to run in this setup? (jdm_bo

Alright!
Reply
Old May 17, 2006 | 03:32 AM
  #11  
jdm_bones's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 9,609
Likes: 0
From: Cartagena, Colombia
Default Re: Just bought an EG with B16 running a P72 ECU, what is the best ECU to run in this setup? (jdm_bo

Will a P2T ECU out of a USDM '99-'00 Civic Si work, cause a P30 is JDM Civic SIR2...I am trying to pass BAR the first time around...
Reply
Old May 17, 2006 | 04:54 AM
  #12  
Jay_Sensing's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 2,695
Likes: 3
From: I miss the east coast, TX, USA
Default

P2T isn't going to work with an OBD1 setup. It's OBD2B. I also doubt you are getting anywhere near the potential of that engine running a GSR ECU.
Reply
Old May 17, 2006 | 06:58 AM
  #13  
db8gsr_teg's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,551
Likes: 0
From: fresno, Ca, US
Default

you can run the obd1 to obd2b conversion, but im not sure they make it.
Reply
Old May 17, 2006 | 07:20 AM
  #14  
EG6_GUY's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 435
Likes: 0
From: United States
Default Re: Just bought an EG with B16 running a P72 ECU, what is the best ECU to run in this setup? (jdm_bo

OBD-1 P30 or PR3 would be the factory ecu for that engine.

If you're going to BAR it you should probably look for a USDM P30.


Modified by The Late, Great, O.D.B. at 8:57 AM 5/17/2006
Reply
Old May 17, 2006 | 01:41 PM
  #15  
jdm_bones's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 9,609
Likes: 0
From: Cartagena, Colombia
Default Re: Just bought an EG with B16 running a P72 ECU, what is the best ECU to run in this setup? (jdm_bo

Cool that's what I am going to do then USDM P30...Thanks bro, once I pass bar, It will be a different story....Thanks to everyone with helpful information!
Reply
Old May 17, 2006 | 01:46 PM
  #16  
jdm_bones's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 9,609
Likes: 0
From: Cartagena, Colombia
Default Re: Just bought an EG with B16 running a P72 ECU, what is the best ECU to run in this setup? (jdm_bo

And about the P2T, I completely forgot about that **** being OBD2...Thanks for the correction without a burn...It was to damn early when I posted, I wasn't thinking right...
Reply
Old May 17, 2006 | 01:48 PM
  #17  
jdm_bones's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 9,609
Likes: 0
From: Cartagena, Colombia
Default Re: Just bought an EG with B16 running a P72 ECU, what is the best ECU to run in this setup? (jdm_bo

Does anyone here have a link to an ECU site, where it shows engagements and performance gain, and what is compatable with what...
Reply
Old May 17, 2006 | 01:54 PM
  #18  
EG6_GUY's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 435
Likes: 0
From: United States
Default Re: Just bought an EG with B16 running a P72 ECU, what is the best ECU to run in this setup? (jdm_bo

I don't know if this site will answer your questions, but it is one of the most informative websites on ECUs that I've ever seen.

http://www.pgmfi.org/twiki/bin...bHome
Reply
Old May 17, 2006 | 01:59 PM
  #19  
Jay_Sensing's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 2,695
Likes: 3
From: I miss the east coast, TX, USA
Default

With the advancements made in ECU tuning, there is no reason to go trying to swap ECU's from different B series cars.

The best thing to do is read the link above you for like a month straight, then go get an OBD1 P28 ECU and start tuning yourself. That is where performance gains will be found.
Reply
Old May 17, 2006 | 05:42 PM
  #20  
jdm_bones's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 9,609
Likes: 0
From: Cartagena, Colombia
Default Re: (Jay_Sensing)

Thanks for the info guys, have to go to work know, I'll check it later...
Reply
Old May 17, 2006 | 07:32 PM
  #21  
pinoyboy204's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 669
Likes: 0
From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Default Re: (jdm_bones)

I have a stock b16a2 on my ek and just wondering what the best ecu to use. I got an option of using a obd2b p73 ITR ecu, or a obd1 p30 ecu. What would you use???
Reply
Old May 17, 2006 | 08:33 PM
  #22  
FalkenSiR's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 10,812
Likes: 0
From: So Cal
Default Re: (pinoyboy204)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pinoyboy204 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a stock b16a2 on my ek and just wondering what the best ecu to use. I got an option of using a obd2b p73 ITR ecu, or a obd1 p30 ecu. What would you use???</TD></TR></TABLE>

Take the obd2b p73 ITR ecu only if you are going to tune it down the road. Take the obd1 p30 if you are obd1.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
latinf86
Honda CRX / EF Civic (1988 - 1991)
2
Dec 28, 2006 08:58 PM
mtwnfabrication
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
6
Aug 10, 2005 06:20 PM
matto2413
Acura Integra
14
May 10, 2005 01:27 PM
jdm4dr
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
2
Oct 14, 2002 05:21 PM
Sideshow9090
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
6
Jun 6, 2002 09:32 AM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:15 AM.