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Old May 15, 2006 | 10:34 PM
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Hello my name is Elliott I live in Phoenix AZ and am the proud owner of this 95 honda civic dx.



Mods include
17x7 Wheels
Lowering springs
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Audiobahn 1800watt mono amp
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The true pride and joy of this car? I bought it last year with 9500 miles on it. Right now it has just over 19000 and runs like a new car.

I have been looking into engine swaps but I like the super clean feeling this car has with its super low miles. It has the D15 engine and unfortunatly and auto transmission. Something I was looking at was this tubro kit.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...%3AIT

Has anyone had a good experiance with turbo kits on ebay? Has anyone turbo charged a D15? Is it possible without blowing the engine. This is my daily driver so it has to run right. Any help is great and any suggestions are welecome. Thanks!!
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Old May 15, 2006 | 10:56 PM
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that much low milage on a d15? hmm has it been rebuilt? i never tried turbo on an auto. but if you looking for one of those ebay greddy kits then its fun for street driving for a manual. but power-wise its restricted and you wont be able to upgrade if you want more hp later on.
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Old May 15, 2006 | 11:04 PM
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I am looking for more power on a budget. The Ebay kit I figured would give me some more go fast and for alot less than the swap. On top of that the swap would still be a AT so I am kind of stuck for now.

As for the engine. Nope never been rebuilt those miles are certified by carfaqs. The car was owned by a little old lady that only drove it to the store and the doctor until she passed away. Her daughters were selling the car. It is bone stokc untouched when I got it. It runs great and isn't terribly slow but definatly not fast.

Would a turbo be bad for an auto? I know it would not give me the same gains as a manual but it would help and give the car some more go. Just curious if it woulf work at all.
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Old May 15, 2006 | 11:07 PM
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is your d15 vtec or no? i have never experience turbo on an auto so i dont want to give you advice that might be false.

anyone out there knows that can help him out?
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Old May 15, 2006 | 11:16 PM
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No Vtec. Just the plain old D15. I forget the exact engine code. I will check it tommorow.
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Old May 15, 2006 | 11:25 PM
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Welcome and clean ride.

As far as turbo's on an auto, I can't answer for EVERY car but auto supra's put out more power than the manuals and I've ridden in a supercharged auto camaro. Now I'm not saying you'll get anywhere near the gains of those of a V8 or Supra and I'm sure you know that. The point is, just because it's auto shouldn't discourage you. However, one thing to think about is how much you love the way the car handles now?! Once boost goes on a car, it's reliability and it's original "smoothness" of ride goes down the drain.

My civic use to ride so smooth and now since I've upgraded the clutch, flywheel, and swapped the motor to make way for the turbo, the original ride quality has went to poo. I guess it's a sacrifice worth taking for the added power in my opinion.
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Old May 15, 2006 | 11:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by grlracer97 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">However, one thing to think about is how much you love the way the car handles now?! Once boost goes on a car, it's reliability and it's original "smoothness" of ride goes down the drain.
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Did you mean to say the ride goes down instead of handling? I'm unsure as to why adding in a turbocharger would be detrimental to handling (with the exception of turbo lag, and then hitting full boost whilst turning) .

I'm sorry, but I don't agree with you at all either way. Reliability CAN go down if you don't take the proper steps to tune properly and make sure that everything is in good shape to handle being boosted. But if you take proper precautions and the like, it won't just go "down the drain." I don't agree with the smoothness part either. You'll probably have to learn how to manipulate the throttle in order to be smooth with the turbo, but it shouldn't be bucking and bouncing all over the place. I agree that adding in a lighter flywheel and a stage 3 clutch or the like can make driving more difficult than say it were stock, I don't think it's impossible to make adjustments to keep the ride smooth. Don't take any offense; it's all constructive critcism.

I think this would be better posted in the forced induction forum. Also try turbod16.com. There's a lot of turbocharged Civics over there (obviously) and I do believe an active member over there had a turbocharged EG sedan. I don't believe he fancied it too much, but that's yours to look into.

Also, those 17" wheels and an auto...that must feel terribly slow. Honda autotragics are quite lethargic in my opinion, and adding in those bigger wheels probably made it worse. You've also probably thrown off the speedometer and odometer. I would look into 15" wheels or smaller with the right size tire. Just my opinion.

To answer your question about turbos on eBay, many people recommend staying far far away from a company called "SSAutoChrome" or something to that effect. I can't help you with that kit you've listed, but it seems a bit too cheap to be true. turbod16 will point you in the right direction. You may want to consider putting together your own turbo kit. It's for the most part, cheaper, and you choose what parts you want to put on your car.

Nevertheless, very good find. Amazing...9k miles. Very pristine looking ride.
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Old May 16, 2006 | 12:00 AM
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wow... low mileage... dang!
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Old May 16, 2006 | 01:26 AM
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hey homie, im in the mesa area, id be glad to help you with a motor swap. youll be a lot happier with a swap than dealing with the tuning and maintenance of turboing your d series in my opinion.
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Old May 16, 2006 | 01:33 AM
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i say milk that motor for all she's worth. thats insanely rare to have that many miles w/ that car. drive that car w/ that motor while you save up for a motor swap w/ 5speed. you won't be disappointed and you'll be able to ride around in the comfort of having a low mileage motor.
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Old May 16, 2006 | 02:01 AM
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uh wow . Looks like a brand new car, it basicly is with so little miles on it.
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Old May 16, 2006 | 02:57 AM
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You should be real careful of those ebay turbos. Just because the price is a steal doesnt mean the full kit is going to work well.
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Old May 16, 2006 | 07:42 AM
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OMG really low mileage....very nice work! Too bad its an auto....but hEy! Whatever floats your boat!!
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Old May 16, 2006 | 08:39 AM
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yeah, manual has its own unique fun. auto however, can ultimately put out more boost (as with the case of the 2JZ-GTE powered Auto Supras) and you can harness the turbo power more. I don't know if the Honda Auto Trans can even take the boost however...

Turbo-ing the D-Series is quite a fun thing to do, if you are up to it, you can also convert your car to manual transmission, all up to you..

With turbo and automatic however, try holding the brake and gassing up until boost hits, hammer the gas at this point and let go of the brake - auto turbo is pretty fun!
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Old May 16, 2006 | 10:15 AM
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Thanks for the help everyone!. I think I am going to stay away from the turbo thing. As for the engine swap I will be saving up for it and probably getting soon. As for the wheels would they really make the speedo off?

Also who makes a good turbo kit for the D series? Anyone know? Thanks again for all the help and I look forward to being part of the forum!!
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Old May 16, 2006 | 05:37 PM
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Any other advice for the civic? Right now the B16A2 swap looks like my best option since it is the cheapest of them and the engines are everywhere, plus the power is a nice bump to 170 from 100. Is this a good swap? I would love a Integra Type r engin but they are wayyy to expensive.
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Old May 16, 2006 | 05:40 PM
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the b16a2 is 160 hp. save for either the gsr or the b16A, let me know if you want help with the swap.
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Old May 16, 2006 | 05:52 PM
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I almost got the B16 swap, Jedi_Sol talked me into the GSR... I tried both before I did it and I am very happy wtih my decision. ITR felt too fast for me as a daily driver... GSR is juiced just enough for a high torque band as the B16 is mainly complained about in that arena. Do what you want to, I mean it's your car. When you do the swap will you be switching it to manual? (PERFECT TIME TO DO SO)

plus, wheels don't make the speedo off much, its a Civic... 15" wheels are big enough imo
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Old May 16, 2006 | 05:56 PM
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I wouldn't bother with an auto turbo. You will be much happier if you convert to 5 speed (or 6 ). B series turbo IMO.
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Old May 16, 2006 | 06:21 PM
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arent honda automatic trannies weaker? A turbo works better with an auto because it can just keep spooling, because shifts are so quick.
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Old May 16, 2006 | 06:32 PM
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i know you prolly dont want to mess with my idea...but its an idea.

look into doing an auto to manual swap. not as hard as people say it is. they are just babies
then a mini-me swap. then you'll have a vtec manual. for fairly cheap. then you can save and boost later and have a MUCH better understanding on the working of your car so if anything goes wrong (which it will at one time or another if you boost) than you can fix it.

but like i said. its just an idea
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Old May 16, 2006 | 06:34 PM
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and as far as the best turbo kit for a d-series....look into putting one together yourself.
http://www.stealthmodeperformance.com
http://www.tunertoys.com
http://www.homemadeturbo.com &lt;--most info on putting one together as well as a ton of suppliers to make your own manifold

one more thing. how the hell did you find a 95 with less than 10000 miles on it?

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Old May 16, 2006 | 06:39 PM
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Jesus. Since when can autos handle more power than sticks?

Stock for stock, Honda's auto trannys go quicker than crack in Harlem.

If you build any tranny it can hold power, and Honda's manual trannys can handle a hefty amount of power stock.
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Old May 16, 2006 | 06:39 PM
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thats not a turbo kit, thats turbo components, the a few of the main ingredients in a meal dont make the meal. and when using cheap ingredients the meal is even worse. remember that. you will need WAY more than that to boost buddy.
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Old May 16, 2006 | 07:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AntF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Did you mean to say the ride goes down instead of handling? I'm unsure as to why adding in a turbocharger would be detrimental to handling (with the exception of turbo lag, and then hitting full boost whilst turning) .

I'm sorry, but I don't agree with you at all either way. Reliability CAN go down if you don't take the proper steps to tune properly and make sure that everything is in good shape to handle being boosted. But if you take proper precautions and the like, it won't just go "down the drain." I don't agree with the smoothness part either. You'll probably have to learn how to manipulate the throttle in order to be smooth with the turbo, but it shouldn't be bucking and bouncing all over the place. I agree that adding in a lighter flywheel and a stage 3 clutch or the like can make driving more difficult than say it were stock, I don't think it's impossible to make adjustments to keep the ride smooth. Don't take any offense; it's all constructive critcism.

I think this would be better posted in the forced induction forum. Also try turbod16.com. There's a lot of turbocharged Civics over there (obviously) and I do believe an active member over there had a turbocharged EG sedan. I don't believe he fancied it too much, but that's yours to look into.

Also, those 17" wheels and an auto...that must feel terribly slow. Honda autotragics are quite lethargic in my opinion, and adding in those bigger wheels probably made it worse. You've also probably thrown off the speedometer and odometer. I would look into 15" wheels or smaller with the right size tire. Just my opinion.

To answer your question about turbos on eBay, many people recommend staying far far away from a company called "SSAutoChrome" or something to that effect. I can't help you with that kit you've listed, but it seems a bit too cheap to be true. turbod16 will point you in the right direction. You may want to consider putting together your own turbo kit. It's for the most part, cheaper, and you choose what parts you want to put on your car.

Nevertheless, very good find. Amazing...9k miles. Very pristine looking ride.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I meant factory style handling/performacne. Not suspension related.

As far as reliablity, maintenance is common sense. I'm assuming he knows that much. And yes you can turbo a car without hurting its quality of performance but that takes money and he has said he's not ballin outta control, so getting just the parts to have boost and not taking all the right steps is bad for the car. When I said smoothness, I was referring to an experience I had. Added clutch and flywheel and it causes clutch chatter. Simply saying that once you start really looking to add the horses, it doesnt ride factory anymore.

Next time don't look so much into stuff.
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