So I got my hoosier drag radials mounted on my rsx wheels, went outside the shop and made a wetbox... revved up the motor to the factory limited 5500rpms, dumped the clutch, and the car pulls itself. The tires don't get spinning fast enough with the limited 5500rpms to sit in the wetbox... So basically the drag radials are a complete waste of money....hopefully at the strip the wetbox is a lot more 'slippery' and allows me to sit there and warm these up otherwise $500 into RSX wheels and drag radials wasted

any insight on how to help this situation would be SUPER

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1 suggestion, 1 question:

1) Are you up on the e-brake hard enough? When you try and do the burnout are the rear tires spinning at all, or are they being dragged?
2) Keep the wheels and tires until Hondata can crack the ECU and get rid of that rev limit

 

yeah, unfortunately it is dragging the tires. I was hoping for a Force style burnout, so I had an employee videotape, and it just drug the tires..

Issue is I have a bet on June 3rd against an automatic 350z at the dragstrip, and I need to get these to warm up or my slim chance is turned to no chance. I would assume that the wetbox at the track is much slicker vs regular concrete outside.... I was just hoping to have a few practice 'warm ups' before I go to the track.

 

I hope you have some mods on your car other than tires...because otherwise that 350 is going to beat you in a 1/4 race.
Anyway...if you are dead set on getting those tires spinning put some tire cleaner on them to make them a little bit more slick. Just make sure to burn the hell out of them when you do your burnout to get all the tire cleaner off.
The problem with the wet box in general is that even if you do manage to get your tires to spin in the water...you are getting water all over your fender well. That dripping water from your fender well gets all over your tires, and your tires are slick again.

 

The 5500 2 step is only in effect when the car is completely stopped. Try hitting the puddle at around 2 or 3 MPH and then reving it up.

 

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I would hope that with as long as your signature is, you would be able to see mine

 

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I thought of that, but that 2-3mph will pull me out of the waterbox, cause when I hit it, it will already have momentum

thanks for the idea tho

 

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Well played my friend...

 

All in fun and games, glad you have a sense of humor

 

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I thought of that, but that 2-3mph will pull me out of the waterbox, cause when I hit it, it will already have momentum

thanks for the idea tho

</TD></TR></TABLE> not if you rollinto the water and dump the clutch as you pull up the e brake.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dumped_ej1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> not if you rollinto the water and dump the clutch as you pull up the e brake.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Have you done this or seen it done successfully? I just think it is gonna be pretty darn hard to get the revs up while slowly rolling, then once over 5500, slam up the ebrake and dump the clutch... Maybe I am syking myself out, but seems like a great chance at failure...

 

The burnout box at the track will be slicker than laying water on fresh concrete. You won't have a problem.

 

cant you get some1 to toss a piece of wood with a rope on it under your tire and then burn out and then get the block pulled out

prolly wont work but, hey i tried

 

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thanks for the info! I figured as much, but being new to it, I am not going to just assume that is how it is.

appreciate it!

 

How about a reverse roll in? Like roll ahead of the wet-box, to get the tires wet all the way around them... Then reverse it into the box and use your backward momentum to reduce the chances of your car lurching forward... Once you feel forward motion, yank the e-brake?

 

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That's just asking for drivetrain failure. Way too much stress and shock going from reverse to a forward gear. Plus it's not even a issue at the track. Many RSX's perform burnouts in water boxes with DR's and even slicks with no problems at all.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxmatt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That's just asking for drivetrain failure. Way too much stress and shock going from reverse to a forward gear. Plus it's not even a issue at the track. Many RSX's perform burnouts in water boxes with DR's and even slicks with no problems at all.</TD></TR></TABLE>I had thought about that too, but considering the wetbox is slippery, there would be minimal additional shock to the drivetrain compared to the already existing shock of doing the burn out anyways.

 

my suggestion is to hit up the track before june 3rd and make sure you won't have a problem. i HIGHLY doubt you won't be able to spin them at the strip. its a LOT slicker than concrete. looks good btw!

 

Coo, now.... start the burnout in 2nd gear, or start in first and go into 2nd while spinning while sitting in burnout box? I would love to learn for myself, but track opens June 3rd and I am left having to 'internet race' until then....

 

I think it is due to the fact of the e-brake, The FG is ebrake sensitive. It wont even let you e brake down the road. So I would just dump the clutch w/out the ebrake on. Roll back the light them up. I lit mine up probably 15ft by just rollin back. Its worth a shot

 

Caveman, I don't fully understand what you are saying... Are you saying that when the ebrake is on, that is why the car will not allow you to rev over 5500rpm's? If that is the case, I may have to work a bit to figure out a mod that Si drag racers will use down the road for years

 

You should be fine doing a 1st gear burnout. Just drive slightly out of the water, pull the e-brake and drop the clutch, keep it floored till a decent amount of smoke is being made or the car starts to pull itself out of the box. I have never done a burnout in any gear other than 1st and have cut 1.60 60ft's many times.

 

When you pull the ebrake it limits the revs on the Si.

 

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I am aware of that, as it does on the EX, RSX, and even the JDM K-motors the same as if the car was not moving. If my wifes stock 06 EX coupe automatic can do a burnout in the waterbox at 5k with e-brake pulled i'm sure his SI will have no problems.

 

****.... I hope that with the BFG radials that I got, I will be able to figure something out. Ill agree with the fact that someone needs to crack the ecu and figure this **** out.... hell maybe they can put some time into making the DBW setup better too.