does the invidia exhaust set up reduce ur WHP?

 

i thnk you get like 2-3 for this dual. It drones though. In a bad way. If you want a dual, rock the HKS Hi Power, or Blitz Realize TT if you don't wanna spend soo much.

 

it'll reduce your ability to hear...

 

hmmm how much does the HKS give?

 

2hp. You think your butt-dyno is that sensitive?

Amuse FTW!

 

HKS gains no HP, and in some cases has been shown to lose HP. Put a T1R testpipe on the invidia and the drone is minimal while freeway cruising.

 

I remember reading about the mugen 2000 with intake header and exhaust and it literally showed no power gains yet it yielded a significantly faster track lap time.

 

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the driver drove better

i really don't udnerstand why people pay upwards of 1k to gain a horsepower or two and make their car drone.

stock exhaust &gt; *

 

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i really don't udnerstand why people pay upwards of 1k to gain a horsepower or two and make their car drone.

stock exhaust &gt; *</TD></TR></TABLE>

Invidia, HKS, Apexi, Greddy, Mugen, etc. All exhausts that cost a billion dollars. They are not any better for making power compared to a large mandrel bent single exhaust that is 1/2 to 1/4 of the price of a stupid name brand exhuast.

 

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if you are looking for power, you'll be disapointed with many exhausts that are out there for the S....single is the way to go if you want any noticeable gain in power...

 

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within the dyno error %..... so in reality.. no noticeable power at all....

 

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HKS gains no HP, and in some cases has been shown to lose HP. </TD></TR></TABLE>

false.... there has only been one recorded incident of someone losing power with an HKS exhuast.... and after further testing and dynoing... his loss in power was actually due to his intake, not his HKS exhuast...

 

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that is due to the snorkle type (design) intakes... on the dyno they don't register to give power.... however, in a real life situation, (actually driving the car)... the car is shown to be faster which equates to it giving more power on a car that is actually moving.... this is due to the design... while on the dyno you're stationary.. yes you have a fan blowing in front of the car but it's not really doing anything but cooling.... while you're driving that intake is being force fed with air from the front of the car....

 

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the driver drove better

i really don't udnerstand why people pay upwards of 1k to gain a horsepower or two and make their car drone.

stock exhaust &gt; *</TD></TR></TABLE>

mugen sticker man.... 20hp extra... ROFL...

 

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Invidia, HKS, Apexi, Greddy, Mugen, etc. All exhausts that cost a billion dollars. They are not any better for making power compared to a large mandrel bent single exhaust that is 1/2 to 1/4 of the price of a stupid name brand exhuast.</TD></TR></TABLE>

invidia is only 600 bucks..... apexi has a single n1.... greddy doesn't even make an exhaust for our cars.....

for exhaust that'll give you power..
j's racing 60rs, 70rs, 70rr
t1r 60mm, 70mm
amuse r1

 

damn a billion dollar exhaust. Whoa.

 

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that is due to the snorkle type (design) intakes... on the dyno they don't register to give power.... however, in a real life situation, (actually driving the car)... the car is shown to be faster which equates to it giving more power on a car that is actually moving.... this is due to the design... while on the dyno you're stationary.. yes you have a fan blowing in front of the car but it's not really doing anything but cooling.... while you're driving that intake is being force fed with air from the front of the car....</TD></TR></TABLE>

Weight savings too. The Mugen SS is pretty light for a dual.

 

so do some of u guys think it would be better to costom pipe your own exhausts system

 

would u see more hp gain or lose

 

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for exhaust that'll give you power..
j's racing 60rs, 70rs, 70rr
t1r 60mm, 70mm
amuse r1</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats not particular order is it?

 

600 dollars for 3whp.. i dont know i rather keep it stock F that!!!!!1

 

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Bolt on exhaust and intake parts don't really do much for S2000's as I've read on here, and as we are witnessing on this thread.

However, I do know that mugen intakes increase mid-range throttle response on B18C# applications, I'd imagine that the same goes for s2000 application.

The track times improved because of this gain in mid-range throttle response and mid-range power/torque increase. The overall power gain may not have changed much, but the mid-range is where your engines need the power to accelerate out of of corner exits more effectively.
Faster corner exits due to the mugen parts probably improved the lap times, IIRC.

 

Area under the curve, in short.

 

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it's the SEMA mugen ap2 from kingsmotorsport, right?(mugen header, intake(with mugen mouth piece), exhaust, ecm(?))

SCC ran the car in their dyno and the peak torque and hp are the same but the rest of the power band was below the stock OEM spec.

well, i guess it at least reduced some weight(plus the wallet)

another reason for not doing any NA mod, SC fund

 

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yes... unless you get one of the ones i mentioned above..