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Old May 13, 2006 | 04:24 PM
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I just bought a front and rear stand for my bike. Unfortunately, there are no mounts for the spools on the rear swingarm. Do I need to drill in order to put them on? If so, which spool size would be recommended(bolt size)? 6mm/8mm/etc.

Those that have done this, do you just drill the hole, and use a couple of washers on each side? Any other precautionary measures that I need to take?

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Old May 13, 2006 | 04:29 PM
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Ok, I guess pitbull makes these kits for drilling. In case anybody's interested,

http://www.pit-bull.com/catalo...32ce2

They've also got a kit for welding some on.

Should I get drilling or welding kind?
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Old May 13, 2006 | 04:45 PM
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Welding one forsure.

I wouldn't want to drill into my swingarm plus welding will be cleaner and has less chance of error in installing it. I would just take the welding shop and get them to throw it on. They should be able to do it for around 30$ or so.

I would weld my own on if I could find some bugs to weld on.
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Old May 13, 2006 | 05:59 PM
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I had my spools welded on by a local shop. You'll need to buy aluminum spool adapters, since your swingarm is, IIRC, Al also.

My welder suggested taking the swingarm off before the welding, but we were able to get it done by leaning the bike waaaaaaaaay over to one side, and then the other way.

It's been fine for a year now. I don't recall the price because I had them do other work on my trailer at the same time.
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Old May 13, 2006 | 06:36 PM
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Thanks for the info. I will be ordering the Al ones from pitbull.

Also, what location would be the best? Right under the axle?
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Old May 13, 2006 | 06:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by P Nut &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks for the info. I will be ordering the Al ones from pitbull.

Also, what location would be the best? Right under the axle?</TD></TR></TABLE>
As long as it's closer to the end. I believe it's not an exact science. You'll get more leverage that way when lifting the bike up.
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Old May 13, 2006 | 07:17 PM
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I cringe at anyone that drills into their swingarm.... I'm not sure about your stand but mine was made for spools and I just flipped the arms upside down and duct taped some old towels on for protection and they work great
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Old May 14, 2006 | 01:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by marmaladeboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I had my spools welded on by a local shop. You'll need to buy aluminum spool adapters, since your swingarm is, IIRC, Al also.

<U>My welder suggested taking the swingarm off before the welding, but we were able to get it done by leaning the bike waaaaaaaaay over to one side, and then the other way.</U>

It's been fine for a year now. I don't recall the price because I had them do other work on my trailer at the same time.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Your welder is a sissy. I've tig'd al upside on my back with a car a few inches away from my face before. Just don't catch anything dripping.
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Old May 14, 2006 | 04:04 PM
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why not drill.. what the hell, other bikes have holes there, the RR does, R6, etc
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Old May 14, 2006 | 04:23 PM
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why dont you just get a swingarm stand? the stand i have lets you rotate the adapter for either spooled or non spooled


don't try to reinvent the wheel
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Old May 14, 2006 | 05:00 PM
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i think you buy something. and bolt on to the rear wheel bolt. make it longer.

btw: if i had a bike, i'd get this. pricy. but worth it.

http://piratesk12site.net/Chock.htm
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Old May 14, 2006 | 06:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Last For One &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think you buy something. and bolt on to the rear wheel bolt. make it longer.

btw: if i had a bike, i'd get this. pricy. but worth it.

http://piratesk12site.net/Chock.htm</TD></TR></TABLE>

How can I take off the wheel if the stand rests on the axle? And that device in the link has the same issue.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ngng &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why dont you just get a swingarm stand? the stand i have lets you rotate the adapter for either spooled or non spooled
don't try to reinvent the wheel</TD></TR></TABLE>

I've heard of people's bikes rolling off the roller-swingarm stands. No thanks. And I hardly think welding or drilling a hole is "reinventing the wheel."

I'm going to get that weld-on kit. I've got a friend who's got a shop that can do it for me.

Thanks for all the inputs.
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Old May 14, 2006 | 07:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .Ash &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Your welder is a sissy. I've tig'd al upside on my back with a car a few inches away from my face before. Just don't catch anything dripping. </TD></TR></TABLE>
How're those eyes holding up? Weren't you missing a couple fingers the last time we talked?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by P Nut &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've heard of people's bikes rolling off the roller-swingarm stands. No thanks. And I hardly think welding or drilling a hole is "reinventing the wheel."</TD></TR></TABLE>
My Superhawk actually slid on its "pad stand" all the way to the swingarm pivot. You *could* put something on the underside of the swingarm to make it grippier, but the spools are so much more fun to use.
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Old May 14, 2006 | 07:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by marmaladeboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My Superhawk actually slid on its "pad stand" all the way to the swingarm pivot. You *could* put something on the underside of the swingarm to make it grippier, but the spools are so much more fun to use. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Not to mention the extra protection for the bike should I go down.
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Old May 14, 2006 | 07:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by P Nut &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Not to mention the extra protection for the bike should I go down.</TD></TR></TABLE>

just get a set of axle sliders
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Old May 22, 2006 | 05:39 PM
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i bought a used 2 brothers stand for a case of beer and it just has swingarm pads, which i epoxed mouse pads rubber side up to. hold my bike really sturdy. ive pushed on it from all sides before with someone there to grab it and it didnt fall

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Old May 23, 2006 | 07:56 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 7808 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i bought a used 2 brothers stand for a case of beer and it just has swingarm pads, which i epoxed mouse pads rubber side up to. hold my bike really sturdy. ive pushed on it from all sides before with someone there to grab it and it didnt fall

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Can you post a close-up pic of the mount?

Also, I talked to a friend, who is a welder, and he said in order to weld Al, he needs to heat up the swingarm, which he said might damage the bearings on the swingarm. And he said definately take off the swingarm in order to weld. At this point, I think I'm just going to ghetto-fab like 7808 and rig up a rubberized swingarm stand.
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Old May 23, 2006 | 02:10 PM
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You need a stand like this.
http://www.pit-bull.com/catalo...06a56

If it is not to late try and return the rear you just got.

The Pit Bull stand I have has both pads and spooled ends on it.
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Old May 23, 2006 | 02:23 PM
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Unfortunately, I bought it from a private party, so I can't return it. I'm heading to Home Depot after work to see if I can rig one up.

Thanks, though.
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Old May 23, 2006 | 02:33 PM
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I used the rubber side of my pitbull's today because I hadn't gotten my spools yet and the ******* bike almost fell off when I was tightening the axle nut.
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Old May 24, 2006 | 12:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by P Nut &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> And that device in the link has the same issue.
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what kind?
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Old May 24, 2006 | 01:01 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RebornGSR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I used the rubber side of my pitbull's today because I hadn't gotten my spools yet and the ******* bike almost fell off when I was tightening the axle nut. </TD></TR></TABLE>

that's casuse your bike is cursed

i dont think ive ever had ANY problems with the rear stand...

had a problem with the front, when i didnt use it in conjunction w the rear
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