For a considerable amount of money one can purchase a B16, GSR, Type-R, or whatever. But what are you really paying for besides VTEC? With 10 more moving parts per cylinder, more complex electronics, and the possibilty of doing something wrong during the swap procedure, is VTEC really worth the trouble? I've been arguing this for too long. I can't decide. Please respond.

 

if your nonvtec motor is blown...then replace it with a vtec...if its not...expletive vtec and boost your engine...youll spend same amount if not less on boosting your car...and WIPE the floor with any stock vtec engine

 

b00st

 

turbo is more worth it imo

 

VTEC is really worth it once u get bigger cams and pistons along with it.. u can really feel that "umph" when you're hitting it

 

umph of a t4 turbo > umph of a different cam profile....

 

NA is best

 

I love how you ask a question specifically about VTEC and people respond with "B00sT!!". But anyways....

Vtec really isnt as complicated as you would think. True, there are a few more sensors and wiring issues with vtec, but in this day and age...when K20 swaps in Civics are becoming common and sr20det in 240's are almost expected, swapping your b series non-vtec motor to b series vtec motor is about as easy as it gets. It's cakewalk thanks to all the forums and how-to's.

If you take your time during the swap, using a helms or Acura manual, and follow any tips you find here on H-T, you should have no problems swapping your motor. Once you're done, you'll wonder why you waited so long.

 

i believe that "vtec" is worth what ever trouble comes with it...which in my opinion is none. i even paid extra money to get "vtec"... everyone likes their coffee made different, so if you think that its not worth it then its not... a b-series is a b-series, and each have just as much potential as the next.

 

If you do a complete Vtec swap, you'll be happy! It's worth it...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by carma_626 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I love how you ask a question specifically about VTEC and people respond with "B00sT!!". But anyways....

Vtec really isnt as complicated as you would think. True, there are a few more sensors and wiring issues with vtec, but in this day and age...when K20 swaps in Civics are becoming common and sr20det in 240's are almost expected, swapping your b series non-vtec motor to b series vtec motor is about as easy as it gets. It's cakewalk thanks to all the forums and how-to's.

If you take your time during the swap, using a helms or Acura manual, and follow any tips you find here on H-T, you should have no problems swapping your motor. Once you're done, you'll wonder why you waited so long.
</TD></TR></TABLE>

too bad he didnt ask if it was easy or expected...he asked if it was worth it...IE worth the money...which it is not if his nonvtec motor is in working order...drop 2k on a gsr swap only to still be most likely a 15 second car or a high 14second car....or drop 2k on a turbo setup to wipe the floor with any vtec swap....TOUGH choice

 

to me if you want a pretty quick, stock and reliable DD...then getting a vtec motor is worth it. it gives you good low-end umph(smaller cam profiles) and a great top-end pull.

i love non-vtec motors, i just decided to swap in a vtec(b16/gsr) engine to learn how to build the vtec engines.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by projectTeG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">to me if you want a pretty quick, stock and reliable DD...then getting a vtec motor is worth it. it gives you good low-end umph(smaller cam profiles) and a great top-end pull.

i love non-vtec motors, i just decided to swap in a vtec(b16/gsr) engine to learn how to build the vtec engines.

</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol only reason hmotors got a call from me was cause that ****** CAI hydrolocked my precious b18b and for 1800 it wasnt a bad deal (long block only)

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lVlemphizStylez &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lol only reason hmotors got a call from me was cause that ****** CAI hydrolocked my precious b18b and for 1800 it wasnt a bad deal (long block only)</TD></TR></TABLE>

yea true, the only reason i took out my ls was because i wanted some more power and i didnt think that my 185k ls could take the added stress of some 404's , dual valve springs and a higher redline.

 

as i said, b00st... i'm just an obsessive man, do what you think you'll be happiar with!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by metab18b &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">as i said, b00st... i'm just an obsessive man, do what you think you'll be happiar with! </TD></TR></TABLE>

i must say a vtec engine is funner to drive.

 

Very few people understand the real benefit of VTEC. What VTEC accomplishes is to extend the revs at which torque is made, to flatten out the torque curve as revs increase, whereas without VTEC it would drop off. The benefit of doing so is in gearing; since you can make the same torque at higher revs, you can keep the car in a lower gear, whereas without it you would need to upshift and lose acceleration because you're in a higher gear. (Acceleration is a function of torque at the wheels, which is engine torque times gearing. Same torque and lower gearing means faster acceleration with VTEC.) Read this article for more about the relationship between torque and horsepower, and how gearing is important.

In summary - yes, VTEC is worth it. Absolutely.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DA9 Purist &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">For a considerable amount of money one can purchase a B16, GSR, Type-R, or whatever. But what are you really paying for besides VTEC? With 10 more moving parts per cylinder, more complex electronics, and the possibilty of doing something wrong during the swap procedure, is VTEC really worth the trouble? I've been arguing this for too long. I can't decide. Please respond. </TD></TR></TABLE>

u don't have to have vtec u can just buy another b18b or a and just boost it.

 

to be honest..i dont really think vtec is worth it...ive driven a few gsr's and they dont really feel faster than my b20...ive also raced both of the cars i mentioned that i drove..and won both times..i dunno..vtec isnt all its cracked up to be, i dont think

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Very few people understand the real benefit of VTEC. What VTEC accomplishes is to extend the revs at which torque is made, to flatten out the torque curve as revs increase, whereas without VTEC it would drop off. The benefit of doing so is in gearing; since you can make the same torque at higher revs, you can keep the car in a lower gear, whereas without it you would need to upshift and lose acceleration because you're in a higher gear. (Acceleration is a function of torque at the wheels, which is engine torque times gearing. Same torque and lower gearing means faster acceleration with VTEC.) Read this article for more about the relationship between torque and horsepower, and how gearing is important.

In summary - yes, VTEC is worth it. Absolutely.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes, coming from a ls engine to a gsr engine...the ls engine felt stronger(jerkyness), the gsr engine is more refined...it doesnt feel faster but it is. i have noticed that my low rpm response is a hell of alot better with this gsr engine than it ever was with my ls.

 

You can get JDM B20's and b18b's for around $600. With the extra money you save on buying one of those use it to buy some cams and pistons. It will still be cheaper then buying a GSR. It will also tear a GSR or b16 from the hole all the way to 5th gear. Just my personal opinion.Good luck with whatever you do though!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DA9 Purist &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">For a considerable amount of money one can purchase a B16, GSR, Type-R, or whatever. But what are you really paying for besides VTEC? With 10 more moving parts per cylinder, more complex electronics, and the possibilty of doing something wrong during the swap procedure, is VTEC really worth the trouble? I've been arguing this for too long. I can't decide. Please respond. </TD></TR></TABLE>

honestly theres like 3 major wires you have to wire up for vtec to operate. you just need the correct ecu, engine, and tranny. there rest from there is cake. the hardest part is pulling your old engine and installing the new one.

 

vtec solenoid...knock...pressure

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lVlemphizStylez &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">vtec solenoid...knock...pressure </TD></TR></TABLE>

yup and if you have a chipped p28 like me all you wire is the pressure and vtec

 

wow there is a lot of ignorance in this thread, i guess i've been away from the h-t 'tech' sections for too long.

vtec ftw


Modified by antiJDM at 2:01 AM 5/15/2006