VTEC eliminator kit. WTF?
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VTEC eliminator kit. WTF?
Recently I was reading through a magazine and saw an ad for something called a "VTEC eliminator kit". They claimed it was desinged to "Replace and eliminate the VTEC function". Why in the hell would someone go through all the time and trouble of dropping in a VTEC motor just to take out the VTEC? Why not just get an LS?
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Re: (cm zak)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cm zak »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">there are people who buy gsr's or type-r's and want to get rid of vtec, why i dont know, but theres sites like non-vtec.com that are dedicated to non-vtec stuff....</TD></TR></TABLE>
the people on that site do not buy gsr or type r motors and want to get rid of vtec, they have a non-vtec motor, hence the site name.
Modified by .brian. at 1:12 AM 5/13/2006
the people on that site do not buy gsr or type r motors and want to get rid of vtec, they have a non-vtec motor, hence the site name.
Modified by .brian. at 1:12 AM 5/13/2006
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vtec was designed for streetability and fuel economy...they are toda vtec killer cams because ppl want to run aggressive cam lobes outside of vtec...vtec was intended for driveability and fuel economy..remember that...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lVlemphizStylez »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">vtec was designed for streetability and fuel economy...they are toda vtec killer cams because ppl want to run aggressive cam lobes outside of vtec...vtec was intended for driveability and fuel economy..remember that...</TD></TR></TABLE>
I believe VTEC was made to have a nice torque (
) curve and be able to make power at higher RPMs. It allows better 'breathing' at higher RPMs.
I believe VTEC was made to have a nice torque (
) curve and be able to make power at higher RPMs. It allows better 'breathing' at higher RPMs.
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vtec is just a way to run different cam profiles...one for lugging around town and getting your 29mpg...and the other for your "breathing"....ever seen the torque curve of a car equipped with the toda vtec killers?? trust me it was done for fuel economy and driveability
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im no expert but i believe they are for drag purposes only..if you notice you never really use vtec..wait let me rephrase that..your never really on the lower cam profile..by running "vtec eliminator" cams its equil. to running in vtec all the time (if that makes any sense to anyone)
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SINFULintegXsi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im no expert but i believe they are for drag purposes only..if you notice you never really use vtec..wait let me rephrase that..your never really on the lower cam profile..by running "vtec eliminator" cams its equil. to running in vtec all the time (if that makes any sense to anyone)</TD></TR></TABLE>
well wouldnt that imply that the other nonvtec lobe is for driveability and fuel economy??? if it gave the car a better torque curve they couldnt achieve from eliminating it im sure they wouldnt opt to eliminate it...
well wouldnt that imply that the other nonvtec lobe is for driveability and fuel economy??? if it gave the car a better torque curve they couldnt achieve from eliminating it im sure they wouldnt opt to eliminate it...
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Re: (cm zak)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cm zak »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">there are people who buy gsr's or type-r's and want to get rid of vtec, why i dont know, but theres sites like non-vtec.com that are dedicated to non-vtec stuff....</TD></TR></TABLE>
like LS's and **** your moron. and its nonvtec.com w/o the hyphen.
like LS's and **** your moron. and its nonvtec.com w/o the hyphen.
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Re: (BlueIntegraBoy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlueIntegraBoy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I believe VTEC was made to have a nice torque ( ) curve and be able to make power at higher RPMs. It allows better 'breathing' at higher RPMs.</TD></TR></TABLE>
bigger cam profiles will idle like **** and will run rich at low rpms,
I believe VTEC was made to have a nice torque (
) curve and be able to make power at higher RPMs. It allows better 'breathing' at higher RPMs.</TD></TR></TABLE>bigger cam profiles will idle like **** and will run rich at low rpms,
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Re: VTEC eliminator kit. WTF? (DA9 Purist)
Vtec Killer. As some guys mentioned, Vtec was intended to provide the best of both worlds, drivability and fuel economy while having a more performance profile during Vtec engagement.
Well, if you wanted to ditch the drivability and fuel economy factor and run an aggressive, all performance profile from 0 rpm to redline then Vtec is pointless, isnt it? That's the concept behind Vtec elimination. However, most of us rather have a nice idle and 'around the town' drivabilty than a lump idle monster...so having Vtec is blessing.
Well, if you wanted to ditch the drivability and fuel economy factor and run an aggressive, all performance profile from 0 rpm to redline then Vtec is pointless, isnt it? That's the concept behind Vtec elimination. However, most of us rather have a nice idle and 'around the town' drivabilty than a lump idle monster...so having Vtec is blessing.
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Re: VTEC eliminator kit. WTF? (DA9 Purist)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DA9 Purist »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Recently I was reading through a magazine and saw an ad for something called a "VTEC eliminator kit". They claimed it was desinged to "Replace and eliminate the VTEC function". Why in the hell would someone go through all the time and trouble of dropping in a VTEC motor just to take out the VTEC? Why not just get an LS?</TD></TR></TABLE>
because on race motors you want the lowest weight valvetrains(less friction losses). eliminating vtec makes the car easier to tune and it eliminates the lag with the vtec crossover, since on a race engine you dont want to have to worry about falling out of vtec.
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because on race motors you want the lowest weight valvetrains(less friction losses). eliminating vtec makes the car easier to tune and it eliminates the lag with the vtec crossover, since on a race engine you dont want to have to worry about falling out of vtec.
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Re: VTEC eliminator kit. WTF? (projectTeG)
higher stroke
higher compression
higher rpms
sounds like a monster gasping for air all the time or ( a harley bike)
so vtec is just like a trick under your sleeve when other has reached its max
vtec is just kicking in.
and like previous answer vtec is just for fuel economy not for racing purposes.
so a vtec killer cam is like running on vtec from the begining. not waiting to hit the sweet spot.
and to the other fellow that stated vtec gives you more torque...
is displacement that gives you torque.
ever wonder why the b20/vtec?
higher compression
higher rpms
sounds like a monster gasping for air all the time or ( a harley bike)
so vtec is just like a trick under your sleeve when other has reached its max
vtec is just kicking in.
and like previous answer vtec is just for fuel economy not for racing purposes.
so a vtec killer cam is like running on vtec from the begining. not waiting to hit the sweet spot.
and to the other fellow that stated vtec gives you more torque...
is displacement that gives you torque.
ever wonder why the b20/vtec?
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Re: (lVlemphizStylez)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lVlemphizStylez »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">vtec is just a way to run different cam profiles...one for lugging around town and getting your 29mpg...and the other for your "breathing"....ever seen the torque curve of a car equipped with the toda vtec killers?? trust me it was done for fuel economy and driveability</TD></TR></TABLE>
29 mpg? damn...what am I doing wrong
$3.75 a gallon and I only get 25 mpg. expletive traffic
29 mpg? damn...what am I doing wrong
$3.75 a gallon and I only get 25 mpg. expletive traffic
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Re: (4sd4dr)
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like LS's and **** your moron. and its nonvtec.com w/o the hyphen.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Wow, from a moderator of nonvtec.com. Haha.
like LS's and **** your moron. and its nonvtec.com w/o the hyphen.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Wow, from a moderator of nonvtec.com. Haha.
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Re: (Blu99teg)
another reason they have the toda vtec killer cam is for boost whe vtec engages your compression goes up and if you dont have lower compression cams it could blow your motor. if its not tuned the best
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like said above the vtec eliminator kits are for race guys who dont run there cars on the street makes tuning simple. and as for mpg's my crx doesnt have vtec and i just clocked it this weekend getting 35 mpg Hf baby and gas here is like 3.10 haha the best part is i got the car for free!!! i shoud do a vx swap in it instead of more power i'd just get more mpgs its just my DD