So how come no one makes the B2D adapter places ? if you think it would save alot of trouble trying to find a Bseries cable or hydro tranny also a d series is tons cheaper so why has'nt anyone done this i mean they have H2D and H2B But no B2D what up with that ?


Modified by PrestonCRX at 5:22 PM 5/13/2006

 

I've seen an H-D adapter on another CRX/EF site (cant remember which). They found that there was a big weight savings to staying with the D-series tranny.

 

I know there's H-D but think how easy it would be for eg guys to swap b18 and stuff it's a direct bolt in just get a b-series engine and an adapter plate and ur ready to go no swapping axles or anything ... and for us ef we would only need one mount or just modify one ?

 

WOW NO ANSWER"S

 

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I never heard anything like this b4 so I'd like some answers myself?

 

WOW STILL NO ONE KNOWS

 

My $.02.

Why would you want a D series tranny with a B?? There are plenty of hydro B series tranny's out there. Just about everyone who does their swap now uses hydro tranny's and hydro conversion mounts. I understand the cable trannies are limited now a days, but I can't see the cost effectiveness of someone designing the necessary adapter for the D tranny since no one wants it. By the time you drop a shorter final drive and an LSD in a D series tranny, you've spent more than a similarly equipped ITR tranny.

I understand why the H people want different tranny's b/c the H tranny is heavy and has bad gearing.

Buy different mounts

 

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Why would you want a D series tranny with a B?? There are plenty of hydro B series tranny's out there. Just about everyone who does their swap now uses hydro tranny's and hydro conversion mounts. I understand the cable trannies are limited now a days, but I can't see the cost effectiveness of someone designing the necessary adapter for the D tranny since no one wants it. By the time you drop a shorter final drive and an LSD in a D series tranny, you've spent more than a similarly equipped ITR tranny.

I understand why the H people want different tranny's b/c the H tranny is heavy and has bad gearing.

Buy different mounts </TD></TR></TABLE>
Short and sweet:

The D-Series Tranny's are FAR cheaper than B, it's EASILY replaced, basically you can get the same results from a D for easier cheaper and when you need parts or to replace anything you have an overwhelming amount of tranny's out there....

I know I would love it if I didn't have to buy an LS tranny for longer gears.....spending big bucks......it would be nice if I bought my CRX and could just keep the tranny........people could use their current trannys and order longblocks as opposed to complete swaps.......bseries mount kit's would be cheaper as you'd need 1 less mount......

It would be far cheaper in the long run....

 

thats my point !!!! Its way cheaper in the long run i can just put a longblock in and not owrry bout finding a hydro tranny thats going to cost me anywhere from 500 to 1000

 

ttt

 

Design one and sell it.

I can't fathom dropping $3k on a motor and not spend at least $600 on a decent stock tranny.

Also, D series trannies, especially the hydro ones aren't as capable of withstanding the higher power output of the larger motors.

IMO, building a D16a is cheaper than swapping in a B or H. So, if saving a few $$$ is your goal it might be best to just stay SOHC.

 

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Wise words my friend.......wise words......and have much more fun along the way

 

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Also if you only needed the engine you could pick up a GSR Longblock from HMO for$2000 shipped. If you could just buy some adapter for a $100-$300 and use your stock tranny, it'd be much cheaper.
Very convenient for people (like myself) who just want a daily driver CRX with a little more go for the time being.
And D-Series trannys can hold plennty of HP

 

To each their own.

 

people are always to quick to say, stay d series to keep cost down.

 

I got a b18afor 250 with everything i needed minus a tranny .... now if i could just get an adapter plate to use with the dseries trannies i have laying around that would be great ... i want to design one but i wanna see how bisimoto worked there's if any has one pic's of one please send them to me i'm serious bout trying to get these into the public saving some flow

 

You've got me thinking.......

I have the means to design, test and mass produce these things. I would just need to know if there is enough of a market to spend the time on such a project.

I would think either there is no market or a simple plate wouldnt do the whole job (different tranny shafts, shaft length, etc.)

 

Well if you think about it there tons of dseries around you would'nt have to change the axles or anything if you stay with the dsereis tranny only need to get one mount the driver side one ? seems cheaper i dunno seems like there's a ton of ls longblocks to this seems like it would save the time and hassle of finding a bseries tranny

 

Its probably the same reason why nobody makes bolt-in B-series mounts with OEM rubber bushings. The demand really isn't great enough to make it worthwhile.

Sure, there are some people who would like to buy a D-series tranny adapter, but a lot of people care about gearing, you can't really get a D-series to perform as well as a hydro-B in that category without forking out a healthy load of cash (to purchase a shorter final drive, LSD, etc).

 

im pretty sure bisi makes them..check out the site http://bisimoto.com,,if they're not on there ,email him,,but im pretty sure he makes them..

 

Maybe its because d's have horrible gearing.
Unless you had a si, you would be stuck with a slow *** car, unless you had turbo or were going for high speed. Also, maybe a d series starter wouldn't be enuff to turn over a high compression b series. I have a h2b kit in my ef. It was easy to swap over because I had a ls/vtec motor in it before I bought the plate. Never the less, I would buy a kit like that. Another thing, u might be saving money on mounts, linkage, and axles, but those adapter plate kits aren't cheap either. I bought mine for $850. Well actually I traded it for the built ls/vtec longblock but that's not the point. I traded a built b for it. Also d series axles are hella puny. A good setup though would be if you had a dohc zc swap then u used the tranny and axles, and half shaft that would haul *** and be strong. Many different combo's and applications. Just make the damn thing

 

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Bingo! Those parts are expensive. LSD $1000, FD $500-$1000. I've always seen D series parts costing more money than equivalent B series parts. Probably due to the low supply.

 

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Bisi know all when it comes to these plates! If he doesn't have them then I'm sure he has a good reason, OR maybe he's got them in the works

 

I already talked to him about it and they dont make them ... im not sure if they plan on making them and here's why i say use the d tranny and this is straight quoted from Bisimoto's website....

Many may ask, "Why the D-series transmission?" These transmissions are plentiful and very cost effective. Since many popular Honda chassis come with these transmissions from factory, factory style axles, mounts, shift linkages, and gearbox sensors can economically remain intact.

Strength of the individual gears is also a big plus. Unlike their B-series bretheren, D-based gears are "stubby", and take well to abuse.


So you tell me ?

 

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So you tell me ?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Gear ratios.