Hey guys I was driving home in MD after my ASE tests yetserday and decieded to take a back road which at most times is great but it was raining last night. I have intake and springs on my si and whnt thru a giant puddle at least 1.5 ft deep and I think the motor my be hydrolocked now. I only had 4900 miles on the car and the honda dealer I went to said that it most likely won't be covered under warranty. Which I know is a crock of **** since I work for a dealer. We replace the first one and then it is customer pay from there on. YOu guys have any suggestions on what kind of info i should bring to show the service manager when I go back. It has AEM CAI but they state that their intake does not void the warranty. It is posted on their website.

 

i'd definately remove the intake. this way they cant say ****.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spoonlongblock &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have intake and springs on my si

It has AEM CAI but they state that their intake does not void the warranty. </TD></TR></TABLE>

If the dealer knows about the mods I think you are going to have a hard time getting it covered under warranty.

"Water would of not got into the motor with the stock intake and the lowering of the car also exposed more of the motor...."

I can see them saying that.

Good luck!

 

well for one the car stock intake is where the intake filter is located and two the advisor herself siad that my car was not made to go in water since it comes lowered from the factory. I put tein springs which have a less than a inch drop where as the HFP suspension is 1.2"

 

well it is already at the dealer so I can;t do much but show them AEM's webiste about not voiding warranty

 

it's no one elses fault but your own. next time don't go through such a huge puddle

also unless the filter is completly under water i tend to doubt it sucked up enough water to damage the engine,

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spoonlongblock &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well for one the car stock intake is where the intake filter is located</TD></TR></TABLE>

So what was the purpose of switching to the AEM if the air filters are both located in the same exact position?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and two the advisor herself siad that my car was not made to go in water since it comes lowered from the factory.</TD></TR></TABLE>

So, what are you supposed to do when it's raining? It may be a Honda "accessory", but it does NOT come lowered from the factory.


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You modified the vehicle. If they are d!cks (which most dealerships are) I have a feeling this is going to be a tough battle for you.

 

Your kidding right? Ok, so you went to take an ASE test, and your not smart enought to realize that YOU hydrolocked YOUR motor in which is in a car that is DROPPED lower, and has an COLD AIR INTAKE on. So YOU want honda to pay for the several steps of prevention that you avoided. Come on, grow up.

Honda isn't responsible, YOU are, call your insurance company, it should be covered under that.

 

I contacted them, but also even if a car was modified we would cover it because we are looking for customer satisfaction. It may be an uphill battle but I am going to try and make something happen

 

Did you contact your insurance company?

 

Yes, just did they said if the manufactuer doesn't cover the problem, it will most likely be covered under insurance. So that means my insurance goes up

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spoonlongblock &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I work for a dealer. We replace the first one and then it is customer pay from there on. </TD></TR></TABLE>

What dealership (manufacture) do you work for?

 

Hahaha you're kidding right? You seriously think they should replace the engine for you? For customer satisfaction? Let's think about that. How much is a new K20? For our purpose let's assume it's around $10K. Let's say they do get you a new engine and win you as a valued customer. Will you in your lifetime go spend $10K at their dealership on repairs? More than likely not. So from a financial point of view, it would be in their best interest to not give a rat's *** about customer satisfaction.

Now let's go back to the CAI. The Si's stock filter and the CAI's filter are NOT in the same place. The stock one sits right next to the engine, while the CAI's is hanging right behind the bumper. The stock RESONATOR CHAMBER is the thing that was originally behind the bumper, not the filter. Furthermore, it does not get its air from down there, but from the wheel well. If you took out the whole stock intake, you probably saw the hose that went up to the hole on the side. It should be somewhere around the coolant reservoir tank. Yup, that's where the air comes from. No possible way of hydrolocking with the stock intake.

AEM says that your warranty isn't voided just by installing the CAI. That means that if you install their CAI, the dealership cannot deny you service to other, nonrelated parts. If your stereo stopped working, they'd probably fix that for you. Your warranty is gone this time because the part that you installed caused the problem, and neither AEM or your dealership should be responsible for your mods. If they can trace back the problem (which I'm pretty sure they can, seeing that your car is lowered and has CAI), they will void your warranty. So suck it up and take it like a man. Call you insurance and tell them you need a new K20.


Modified by patriarch at 9:41 AM 5/12/2006

 

well I have already talked to insurance and I am taking like a man, they said it would be covered under my comprehensive so we will just see what's sup?

 

I work for Darcars Toyota.

 

[QUOTE=spoonlongblock] I think the motor my be hydrolocked nowQUOTE]

Will it start? will it do anything!! Some people suck up water and are lucky enough to clean it out and be damage free!!! before you get a NEW motor, try and see what kind of damage is done to the one you have, it might no be as bad as you think!!! Was your fillter soaked completely?, because I think unless you completley submerge the filter in water then you probebly didn't suck up enough to cause serious damage!!!

 

Thats why I DONT like CAI. For that same reason of Hydrolocking

Stick to the stock intake w/ K&N or go Injen SR

 

well I got the verdict back and I didn't suck enough water up to do any major damage. It fouled the spark plugs and went into the oil. They changed the oil and replaced the spark plugs and said that it ran fine for 25 minutes without any hiccups so I hope everything is good and it runs like it did before the incident. The final total for parts and labor came to $280.45 that is plugs and oil and filter and labor. I am so lucky. I will be changing the CAI to a SAI when I have the money. I should be able to change it is a week or so. The AEM SAI sits where the stock air box is. Thanks for everyone's input. Now I will stay away from the CAI

 

glad to here that.. better than a new engine and going through the headaches

 

now stay away from big puddles

 

thanks again guys gonna pick it up this morning

 

NO! NO! NO!....don't get rid of the CAI... all you have to do is order a $20, 2inch bypass extention from AEM. it releases any water sucked up by the filter. plus, CAI has more horsepower gains than a SRI.

 

Uhh, correct me if I am wrong but CAI do not provide more power than SRI. They just place the power in the higher RPM ranges where as SRI's power happens on the low end.

 

one I am get the SAI for my own personal assurance and two AEM doesn't make a bypass valve for the si as it has a MAF

 

Consider yourself corrected. That's false.