Hey everyone, I have done intensive research on every header out there and still can't understand whats best for me...

All I will have is bolt-ons: AEM V2, AEM Pulleys, 2.5 inch exhaust, high flow cat (maybe testpipe ), all tuned with a VAFC

What is the best header for me? I was thinking DC with a 2.5" collector mod?

Then sometimes I think maybe vibrant, but thats 2.25".

 

I hated my dc sports header, i switched and got a weapon r SS and had it sprayed with high temp paint and wrapped it with the heat resistant wrap and the gains were awesome! vtec slams in and is def loud and more noticable! Im actually gonna be selling it since i have the greddy turbo kit and wont have any use for it.

 

did you dyno the gains?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LudeAchris2001 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I hated my dc sports header, i switched and got a weapon r SS and had it sprayed with high temp paint and wrapped it with the heat resistant wrap and the gains were awesome! vtec slams in and is def loud and more noticable! Im actually gonna be selling it since i have the greddy turbo kit and wont have any use for it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

can i save this for later, a bad day, when i need something to LAUGH AT!

vtec really slams in super loud and my butt rockets harder than ev4r....gains +10000

best header for anything, rmf or dtr or hytech....etc....tell them what you have, you will get what you want....

 

All those header are great, no doubt about it.

But I don't think they are great for a stock engine.

The gains just aren't worth the price.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LudeAchris2001 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I hated my dc sports header, i switched and got a weapon r SS and had it sprayed with high temp paint and wrapped it with the heat resistant wrap and the gains were awesome! vtec slams in and is def loud and more noticable! Im actually gonna be selling it since i have the greddy turbo kit and wont have any use for it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I would like to see a dyno please. And send me a price

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jimjackson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">All those header are great, no doubt about it.

But I don't think they are great for a stock engine.

The gains just aren't worth the price.</TD></TR></TABLE>

right.....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by apeng09 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">leave it up to matt to bash on any header that isn't high end rmf dtr hytech smsp etc.</TD></TR></TABLE>

honestly, he said weapon arrrrR....i couldnt help it

the only non high end header i wont bash on is a greddy w/2.5 collector and an-r headers, they make good power

the rest arent worth the time it took to tighten the flange nuts.....

not worth the gains huh.....where else are you gonna get them from??

 

normally bashing kinda pisses me off but i agree on this one. like what everyone else says you get what you pay for.

 

I'm with mgags and 98vtec on this one... by the way, when will people finally realize that VTEC is a system that allows for engagement of alternate camshaft lobes, not a super-dee-duper power boost that " slams " you in the seat when you want that JDM Option 2 feeling?

 

Shot in the dark here but...

If his VTEC "kicks" harder with his Weapon-R header, doesn't that mean that there is now a larger division of power? Meaning he's now making even less power Pre-VTEC than before; therefore making the VTEC engagment seemingly harder? (which in turn makes it *feel* like you've made more power). From what I was told, you want to smooth out VTEC engagement as much as possible, since that means you were making more power Pre-VTEC. You want gains through the powerband (larger area under the curve) rather than adding a couple up top, right?

If I just made a complete fool of myself, then please disregard this post.

 

could be the case......would have to see the dyno chart to know.

 

yeah when you're tuned properly, you shouldn't even be able to feel the crossover

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by soundbomber &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah when you're tuned properly, you shouldn't even be able to feel the crossover</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

Vibrant's are supposed to be another good choice. Similar design to Greddy but with slightly larger primaries and a 2.5" collector. Usually around $400.

 

i'd like to see someone do a test on that header.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by soundbomber &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah when you're tuned properly, you shouldn't even be able to feel the crossover</TD></TR></TABLE>

honestly that depends on the tuner, some like to make it a nice slam into vtec for fun's sake, but if tuned to 100% capacity, you guys are right, making it smooth increases area under the curve....

with my tune you dont really feel vtec all that much, its definitely there, but its more of a sound change than a kick in the ***, the real pull starts just above 6k

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Project22a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Shot in the dark here but...

If his VTEC "kicks" harder with his Weapon-R header, doesn't that mean that there is now a larger division of power? Meaning he's now making even less power Pre-VTEC than before; therefore making the VTEC engagment seemingly harder? (which in turn makes it *feel* like you've made more power). From what I was told, you want to smooth out VTEC engagement as much as possible, since that means you were making more power Pre-VTEC. You want gains through the powerband (larger area under the curve) rather than adding a couple up top, right?

If I just made a complete fool of myself, then please disregard this post. </TD></TR></TABLE>


No man, you sir are an idiot! What you really want is all the power to hit right at VTACH so it breaks the rails right off your seat y0!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by apeng09 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just to throw this in there....

if you have an h23, go use 100 bucks and buy a ebay megan racing header.

dyno proven for 10whp</TD></TR></TABLE>

oh hell yes, the stock h23 exh manifolds suck teh bawlz....

for the h22, the stock mani is designed a bit better, so more $$ is involved for gains....

 

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right.....</TD></TR></TABLE>

It seems people on honda-tech just don't answer the question asked. Instead everyone dawgs on everyone else.

If somebody can give me an example of a car with bolt-ons only and a custom header making good power I would agree.

Nobody wants to answer my original question.

Gotta love it huh

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jimjackson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

It seems people on honda-tech just don't answer the question asked. Instead everyone dawgs on everyone else.

If somebody can give me an example of a car with bolt-ons only and a custom header making good power I would agree.

Nobody wants to answer my original question.

Gotta love it huh </TD></TR></TABLE>

if ur gonna be an ***....

first its total bullshit u searched cuz every single header thread has some 05 or 06 wanting dc and nobody ever says a good thing about dc, so u either searched extremely poorly or ur reading comprehension sucks *****

second, look through the prelude dyno thread, either search for it (we all know where that will get you based on the previous paragraph) or look in the faq as it may be in there

third, since u are tuning (vafc...better than nothing) and have the rest of the bolt ons, u may as well get a header that will actually do something for you rather than some pos whose only benefit is its lighter than the stock one, plus, $1000000 says that while u think u will be stopping at the header and tuning, u'll be looking at cams within a year, then bumping compression, lightened flywheel, stripping the car, it doesnt end where u think it will.....

 

search my name for that yo.....rmf header and nada mas....


Modified by mgags7 at 9:13 AM 5/13/2006

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by twistedbydezign &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if ur gonna be an ***....

first its total bullshit u searched cuz every single header thread has some 05 or 06 wanting dc and nobody ever says a good thing about dc, so u either searched extremely poorly or ur reading comprehension sucks *****

second, look through the prelude dyno thread, either search for it (we all know where that will get you based on the previous paragraph) or look in the faq as it may be in there

third, since u are tuning (vafc...better than nothing) and have the rest of the bolt ons, u may as well get a header that will actually do something for you rather than some pos whose only benefit is its lighter than the stock one, plus, $1000000 says that while u think u will be stopping at the header and tuning, u'll be looking at cams within a year, then bumping compression, lightened flywheel, stripping the car, it doesnt end where u think it will.....</TD></TR></TABLE>

i like you

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jimjackson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
If somebody can give me an example of a car with bolt-ons only and a custom header making good power I would agree.</TD></TR></TABLE>

154,000miles w/ bad compression and untuned. and did i mention, the header was designed for the specs i "will" have, not my stock internals now.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1624290

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by twistedbydezign &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

if ur gonna be an ***....

first its total bullshit u searched cuz every single header thread has some 05 or 06 wanting dc and nobody ever says a good thing about dc, so u either searched extremely poorly or ur reading comprehension sucks *****

second, look through the prelude dyno thread, either search for it (we all know where that will get you based on the previous paragraph) or look in the faq as it may be in there

third, since u are tuning (vafc...better than nothing) and have the rest of the bolt ons, u may as well get a header that will actually do something for you rather than some pos whose only benefit is its lighter than the stock one, plus, $1000000 says that while u think u will be stopping at the header and tuning, u'll be looking at cams within a year, then bumping compression, lightened flywheel, stripping the car, it doesnt end where u think it will.....</TD></TR></TABLE>

+1

 

yeah twisted well put man, i completely passed your post up last night

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