http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...17272

Anyone used simliar products? Utter Crap or good bang for the buck?

Also, will it work with this manifold kit? http://store.straightlinespeci...985a3

Thanks alot for the help in adavance...

(I already posted this in the FI forum, I just wanted some input from my fellow EF'ers. )

 

That turbo will not bolt up to the Straightline dp, Straightline uses all 4 bolt flanges on theire DPs, that particular turbo is a 5 bolt.
(notice the Del Sol in the ebay background)

 

Also, as for that whole ebay setup, I can't say its crap because I've never used it. If I were to use it I would put a restrictor in the oil feed line. Knock off wastegates= boost creap usually.

And you can't adjust the wategate from 1-30psi as it's advertised...unless that's a 1psi wastegate spring inside (which I doubt)

The knock off bov's actually sound just like the real ones

 

Here is a similar kit to what I used from SS Auto Chrome from ebay and it works awsome.. I have a EF with a Z6 swap and Ive already seen boost #'s of 20+ lbs. I dont recomend that on a stock block thou..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...wItem

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Wild1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here is a similar kit to what I used from SS Auto Chrome from ebay and it works awsome.. I have a EF with a Z6 swap and Ive already seen boost #'s of 20+ lbs. I dont recomend that on a stock block thou..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...wItem</TD></TR></TABLE>
oh really...

 

Yes sir this is the truth, I didnt run it long at this boost because of the stock Z6 but it actually reached about 23 lbs with an ebay boost controller.. I let a freind drive it and that was bout it for the valves so Im gonna have to do a rebuild on the head.. Honestly for the kit I got, T3 turbo, this thing boosts hard and Im at full boost by about 3-3500 rpm..

 

like any and everything, you get what you pay for, the more you pay the quality and relieability will be there, the less you pay you can expect it to be quality nor relieable as the low cost keep the ''quality'' down to a minimum on all parts making the overall kit lower grade and lower quality, but its a chance you take, if you can afford expendsive you cant afford it, just a change you take

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Wild1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes sir this is the truth, I didnt run it long at this boost because of the stock Z6 but it actually reached about 23 lbs with an ebay boost controller.. I let a freind drive it and that was bout it for the valves so Im gonna have to do a rebuild on the head.. Honestly for the kit I got, T3 turbo, this thing boosts hard and Im at full boost by about 3-3500 rpm..</TD></TR></TABLE>

I only plan to run 8 lbs max or something.

How did the Wastegate work? Did you have to change springs for boost adjustment or use a boost controller only?

Also, What kind of fuel management did you use?

How long did you use the seup? Any probs?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b18sihatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">like any and everything, you get what you pay for, the more you pay the quality and relieability will be there, the less you pay you can expect it to be quality nor relieable as the low cost keep the ''quality'' down to a minimum on all parts making the overall kit lower grade and lower quality, but its a chance you take, if you can afford expendsive you cant afford it, just a change you take</TD></TR></TABLE>
Not true in alot of cases. There is alot of high priced "garbage" and alot of low priced "jewels", you just have to know what your looking for. Low cost has to do alot with how many hands it passes through to get to yours, and likewise with high cost. High cost is also due to brand naming. Example: Skunk 2 valve springs, big name, high price, I've seen them break. OBX: related to "cheap", "cheap" LSD's, I've seen them work problem free.
NOTE: SSAUTOCHROME WAS NOT ONE OF THE LOW PRICED "JEWELS" I WAS REFERING TO


Modified by Autoworks at 4:19 AM 5/13/2006

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tippyman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
How did the Wastegate work? Did you have to change springs for boost adjustment or use a boost controller only?
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You can use the single spring, and turn it up with a boost controller, you just can't turn it down below what the spring is set at.
Example, a .5 bar (7.25psi) spring can be turned up to 15psi, but can't be tuned below 7.25 psi.

 

Cool.

How am I supposed to tell how much boost I am running? Boost guage?

How can I tell w/out actually driving it?! I don't want to have it at like 20 lbs and not know it!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tippyman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Cool.

How am I supposed to tell how much boost I am running? Boost guage?

How can I tell w/out actually driving it?! I don't want to have it at like 20 lbs and not know it!</TD></TR></TABLE>
Boost guage lets you monitor the boost. An external wastegate should come with a set spring to let you know what it should cut the boost at.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Wild1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here is a similar kit to what I used from SS Auto Chrome from ebay and it works awsome.. I have a EF with a Z6 swap and Ive already seen boost #'s of 20+ lbs. I dont recomend that on a stock block thou..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...wItem</TD></TR></TABLE>

do a search for ssautochrome and you will see the overwhelming experience is bad due to cheap parts.

think about it, at that price they are still making a decent profit. where did the savings come out of? well, its in the parts about to be attached to your engine.

buy the good stuff, once.

 

Just stay away from anythhing that ssautochrome makes ( besides the intercooler ) Waste gates also fail

 

i dont believe this is true bc there are things used you can find cheap that are better quality. but something brand new and a line of new products like turbos,wastegates,manifolds,ect you cant say sumthing cheap is going to be great quality, some brands out there put more quality in their products and obviously that is going to make the outcome cost higher than normal, but you literally pay for what you get, and you cant expect the world of sumthing extremely cheap it might work. but try and compare ssautochrome to full race. one product is QUALITY and one product is low cost, and see what one is better

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b18sihatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont believe this is true bc there are things used you can find cheap that are better quality. but something brand new and a line of new products like turbos,wastegates,manifolds,ect you cant say sumthing cheap is going to be great quality, some brands out there put more quality in their products and obviously that is going to make the outcome cost higher than normal, but you literally pay for what you get, and you cant expect the world of sumthing extremely cheap it might work. but try and compare ssautochrome to full race. one product is QUALITY and one product is low cost, and see what one is better</TD></TR></TABLE>
Even though I totally skipped over it last time; I wasn't saing that cheap parts can't be low quality, because alot of them are. I was moreso pointing out that just because a part is expensive doen NOT make it a high quality part, it just makes it an expensive part. Some parts are expensive just to puch that particullar brand into a "higher" market, making themselves appear to be better, but in reality it's not.
You can't compare Full Race, a private small in house co. (the peeps are cool as hell too) to OBX/SSAC which are both co's that don't make squat; but purchase these parts and label them as their own.

 

In my opinion it is not only the quality of the product, but you all have to admit some people who install these kits themselves dont have either the know how or the proper tools to get it done right.. I as alot of people have seen the installs some do and they are a total joke, between crush bent tubing, bugar welds and the infamous ricer wiring job (no offence).. I consider the job I did it turned out very well.. I have no problems with the turbo, wastegate, nor the tubing that I got from SS Auto chrome.. I think I got a great deal for my $$, the kit held together, put out plenty of boost, and most people who see it are kinda wowed.. Also I got an e-bay boost controller and If I run with out it i push bout 6-7 lbs, If I turn it down with the controler it goes down to about 3 lbs, and up ive gotten 25+ lbs..
I think if your gonna do it take the time to plan it out..