Im thinking about getting EMS...
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Im thinking about getting EMS...
I have been putting alot of thought into getting AEM EMS for my s2000. I found two local tuners that I would trust, and Im starting to read up more on the AEMPOWER website.
What im wondering is, what are the main areas the EMS will focus on with my s2000? I understand it will affect the a/f ratio, but what else should I have it affect?
I don't think that I wan't to play around with the timing, and theirs really no point for me to lower the vtec crossover.
My main concern is to free up some power from my current mods, get more consistant gas milage, and to learn how to tune the EMS for a future possible 2.5 stroker setup.
Now, if i decide to get the wideband o2 sensor, does it replace my OEM o2 sensor? Will I have to tap into my header for a new o2 bung?
Anything else would be appreciated.
What im wondering is, what are the main areas the EMS will focus on with my s2000? I understand it will affect the a/f ratio, but what else should I have it affect?
I don't think that I wan't to play around with the timing, and theirs really no point for me to lower the vtec crossover.
My main concern is to free up some power from my current mods, get more consistant gas milage, and to learn how to tune the EMS for a future possible 2.5 stroker setup.
Now, if i decide to get the wideband o2 sensor, does it replace my OEM o2 sensor? Will I have to tap into my header for a new o2 bung?
Anything else would be appreciated.
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Re: Im thinking about getting EMS... (Francesco)
Fuel and ignition curve, mainly to adjust to the new volumetric efficiency of your car. It's revising fuel and timing to match your bolt ons.
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Money well spent if u ask me, especially for future mods such as a stroker...
I bought one for my all motor setup..
I bought one for my all motor setup..
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Re: Im thinking about getting EMS... (Nishant)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nishant »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you getting it tuned by Jeff Evans?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I have to call Evans up and see how booked he is.
Im also looking into Philly Dyno works. Jackson wen't there and I keep hearing good things about them.
I wan't a street tune for my driving style.
I have to call Evans up and see how booked he is.
Im also looking into Philly Dyno works. Jackson wen't there and I keep hearing good things about them.
I wan't a street tune for my driving style.
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Re: Im thinking about getting EMS... (Francesco)
get the 1052U... has a built in wideband....
it's worth it...
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only main issue would be.. if you have emissions in jersey and they use the obd2 port to plug into, you'll be losing that with the EMS...
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it's worth it...
... only main issue would be.. if you have emissions in jersey and they use the obd2 port to plug into, you'll be losing that with the EMS...
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Re: Im thinking about getting EMS... (FR-MOB: Projekt)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FR-MOB: Projekt »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Fuel and ignition curve, mainly to adjust to the new volumetric efficiency of your car. It's revising fuel and timing to match your bolt ons.</TD></TR></TABLE>
So will they advance or retard the timing? Or it depends on goals.
So will they advance or retard the timing? Or it depends on goals.
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Re: Im thinking about getting EMS... (papa5murf)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by papa5murf »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">get the 1052U... has a built in wideband....
it's worth it... ...
only main issue would be.. if you have emissions in jersey and they use the obd2 port to plug into, you'll be losing that with the EMS......</TD></TR></TABLE>
I have PA tags, and I don't go to the MVS for inspection so its not a concern.
Now since the 1052 has a built in wideband, you still need to run a gauge, or does it come with one?
it's worth it...
... only main issue would be.. if you have emissions in jersey and they use the obd2 port to plug into, you'll be losing that with the EMS...
...</TD></TR></TABLE>I have PA tags, and I don't go to the MVS for inspection so its not a concern.
Now since the 1052 has a built in wideband, you still need to run a gauge, or does it come with one?
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Re: Im thinking about getting EMS... (Francesco)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Francesco »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
So will they advance or retard the timing? Or it depends on goals.</TD></TR></TABLE>
they dont' have to if you don't want them to..
So will they advance or retard the timing? Or it depends on goals.</TD></TR></TABLE>
they dont' have to if you don't want them to..
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Re: Im thinking about getting EMS... (papa5murf)
But what would the effects be for the s2000?
I understand how they advance/retard timing for FI setups to maintain boost, but would advancing it for the s2000 really be necessary?
I understand how they advance/retard timing for FI setups to maintain boost, but would advancing it for the s2000 really be necessary?
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Re: Im thinking about getting EMS... (Francesco)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Francesco »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I have PA tags, and I don't go to the MVS for inspection so its not a concern.
Now since the 1052 has a built in wideband, you still need to run a gauge, or does it come with one?</TD></TR></TABLE>
1052 does not have a built in wideband
1052U does have a built in wideband (no gauge)
and yes if you want the gauge then you have to buy that seperately.. but its not needed in my opinion.. just another gauge to add to the interior of the car...
I have PA tags, and I don't go to the MVS for inspection so its not a concern.
Now since the 1052 has a built in wideband, you still need to run a gauge, or does it come with one?</TD></TR></TABLE>
1052 does not have a built in wideband
1052U does have a built in wideband (no gauge)
and yes if you want the gauge then you have to buy that seperately.. but its not needed in my opinion.. just another gauge to add to the interior of the car...
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Re: Im thinking about getting EMS... (Francesco)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Francesco »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">But what would the effects be for the s2000?
I understand how they advance/retard timing for FI setups to maintain boost, but would advancing it for the s2000 really be necessary?</TD></TR></TABLE>
that would depend on your goals and what other mods you have....if the tuner says you'll get more power by doing this and that to the timing then it's up to you if you want that extra bit of power...
I understand how they advance/retard timing for FI setups to maintain boost, but would advancing it for the s2000 really be necessary?</TD></TR></TABLE>
that would depend on your goals and what other mods you have....if the tuner says you'll get more power by doing this and that to the timing then it's up to you if you want that extra bit of power...
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Re: Im thinking about getting EMS... (papa5murf)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by papa5murf »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
and yes if you want the gauge then you have to buy that seperately.. but its not needed in my opinion.. just another gauge to add to the interior of the car...</TD></TR></TABLE>
so then the wideband read out is displayed via the computer when tuning and not the physical gauge.
im actually not into interior bling, so i highly doubt ill ever run one. i was thinking about fabing something up for my center console, but you would only be able to see it when you slide the compartment back.
and yes if you want the gauge then you have to buy that seperately.. but its not needed in my opinion.. just another gauge to add to the interior of the car...</TD></TR></TABLE>
so then the wideband read out is displayed via the computer when tuning and not the physical gauge.
im actually not into interior bling, so i highly doubt ill ever run one. i was thinking about fabing something up for my center console, but you would only be able to see it when you slide the compartment back.
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Re: Im thinking about getting EMS... (papa5murf)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by papa5murf »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
that would depend on your goals and what other mods you have....if the tuner says you'll get more power by doing this and that to the timing then it's up to you if you want that extra bit of power...</TD></TR></TABLE>
as for mods its:
AMUSE header
AMUSE r1 basic
J's test pipe
Ill get the EMS when i get an intake. As for that, im considering the mugen.
that would depend on your goals and what other mods you have....if the tuner says you'll get more power by doing this and that to the timing then it's up to you if you want that extra bit of power...</TD></TR></TABLE>
as for mods its:
AMUSE header
AMUSE r1 basic
J's test pipe
Ill get the EMS when i get an intake. As for that, im considering the mugen.
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Re: Im thinking about getting EMS... (Francesco)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Francesco »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
so then the wideband read out is displayed via the computer when tuning and not the physical gauge.
im actually not into interior bling, so i highly doubt ill ever run one. i was thinking about fabing something up for my center console, but you would only be able to see it when you slide the compartment back.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah the computer will have it all.... ...
so then the wideband read out is displayed via the computer when tuning and not the physical gauge.
im actually not into interior bling, so i highly doubt ill ever run one. i was thinking about fabing something up for my center console, but you would only be able to see it when you slide the compartment back.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah the computer will have it all....
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Re: Im thinking about getting EMS... (Francesco)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Francesco »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
as for mods its:
AMUSE header
AMUSE r1 basic
J's test pipe
Ill get the EMS when i get an intake. As for that, im considering the mugen.</TD></TR></TABLE>
they might advance the timing a little for a better throttle response...:THINKER: i think... :LOL:... dang where are you?
as for mods its:
AMUSE header
AMUSE r1 basic
J's test pipe
Ill get the EMS when i get an intake. As for that, im considering the mugen.</TD></TR></TABLE>
they might advance the timing a little for a better throttle response...:THINKER: i think... :LOL:... dang where are you?
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Re: Im thinking about getting EMS... (papa5murf)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by papa5murf »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
yeah the computer will have it all.... ... </TD></TR></TABLE>
well thats good.
on another note. tuners don't warrant their work right?
meaning i let a shop tune my car and one week later the motor blows. thats on me right? they have you sign papers saying their not responsible?
yeah the computer will have it all....
... </TD></TR></TABLE>well thats good.
on another note. tuners don't warrant their work right?
meaning i let a shop tune my car and one week later the motor blows. thats on me right? they have you sign papers saying their not responsible?
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Re: Im thinking about getting EMS... (papa5murf)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by papa5murf »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
they might advance the timing a little for a better throttle response...:THINKER: i think... :LOL:... dang where are you?</TD></TR></TABLE>
i always thought throtle response was affected by the mods and not the ecu.
they might advance the timing a little for a better throttle response...:THINKER: i think... :LOL:... dang where are you?</TD></TR></TABLE>
i always thought throtle response was affected by the mods and not the ecu.
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Re: Im thinking about getting EMS... (Francesco)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Francesco »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
meaning i let a shop tuner my car and one week later the motor blows. thats on me right? they have you sign papers saying their not responsible?</TD></TR></TABLE>
My guy didn't make me sign anything. But, he did it on the side.
If they really know what they are doing, then they won't be at fault anyway.
meaning i let a shop tuner my car and one week later the motor blows. thats on me right? they have you sign papers saying their not responsible?</TD></TR></TABLE>
My guy didn't make me sign anything. But, he did it on the side.
If they really know what they are doing, then they won't be at fault anyway.
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Re: Im thinking about getting EMS... (LSHatch)
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My guy didn't make me sign anything. But, he did it on the side.
If they really know what they are doing, then they won't be at fault anyway. </TD></TR></TABLE>
well yeah, everything comes down to their knowlege. Right now im in the research stages. I want everything done right the first time and first motor.
My guy didn't make me sign anything. But, he did it on the side.
If they really know what they are doing, then they won't be at fault anyway. </TD></TR></TABLE>
well yeah, everything comes down to their knowlege. Right now im in the research stages. I want everything done right the first time and first motor.
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Re: Im thinking about getting EMS... (Francesco)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Francesco »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
well yeah, everything comes down to their knowlege. Right now im in the research stages. I want everything done right the first time and first motor.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'd go with Evans if you can get an appt. He has a huge customer base out there now. And everyone is super happy with it.
well yeah, everything comes down to their knowlege. Right now im in the research stages. I want everything done right the first time and first motor.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'd go with Evans if you can get an appt. He has a huge customer base out there now. And everyone is super happy with it.
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Re: Im thinking about getting EMS... (LSHatch)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LSHatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I'd go with Evans if you can get an appt. He has a huge customer base out there now. And everyone is super happy with it. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Should I order the EMS through him or bring my own up there?
Also, once i hook the EMS up I need it tuned, or will it come with a stock basemap so i can get my car to the tuner?
I'd go with Evans if you can get an appt. He has a huge customer base out there now. And everyone is super happy with it. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Should I order the EMS through him or bring my own up there?
Also, once i hook the EMS up I need it tuned, or will it come with a stock basemap so i can get my car to the tuner?
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Re: Im thinking about getting EMS... (Francesco)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Francesco »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Should I order the EMS through him or bring my own up there?
Also, once i hook the EMS up I need it tuned, or will it come with a stock basemap so i can get my car to the tuner?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Order your own and just install it at his shop. It takes all of what, ten minutes?
I'm not sure about the basemap. I know horsepower freaks will provide one. Mine had nothing in it.
Should I order the EMS through him or bring my own up there?
Also, once i hook the EMS up I need it tuned, or will it come with a stock basemap so i can get my car to the tuner?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Order your own and just install it at his shop. It takes all of what, ten minutes?
I'm not sure about the basemap. I know horsepower freaks will provide one. Mine had nothing in it.
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Re: Im thinking about getting EMS... (LSHatch)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LSHatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Order your own and just install it at his shop. It takes all of what, ten minutes?
I'm not sure about the basemap. I know horsepower freaks will provide one. Mine had nothing in it. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Ill just see if i can get one on AEM Power. Its a must that I have a stock ap2 basemap incase something happens with the tuned maps.
Order your own and just install it at his shop. It takes all of what, ten minutes?
I'm not sure about the basemap. I know horsepower freaks will provide one. Mine had nothing in it. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Ill just see if i can get one on AEM Power. Its a must that I have a stock ap2 basemap incase something happens with the tuned maps.
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Re: Im thinking about getting EMS... (LSHatch)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LSHatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Order your own and just install it at his shop. It takes all of what, ten minutes?
I'm not sure about the basemap. I know horsepower freaks will provide one. Mine had nothing in it. </TD></TR></TABLE>
AEM should provide you with a basemap..
Order your own and just install it at his shop. It takes all of what, ten minutes?
I'm not sure about the basemap. I know horsepower freaks will provide one. Mine had nothing in it. </TD></TR></TABLE>
AEM should provide you with a basemap..