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Cylinder #1 Not Running - Got Spark/Fuel/Timing - Pull Plug Up And Its Perfect? Why?

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Old May 10, 2006 | 12:20 PM
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Default Cylinder #1 Not Running - Got Spark/Fuel/Timing - Pull Plug Up And Its Perfect? Why?

Watch these 2 vids

http://media.putfile.com/sparkwire
http://media.putfile.com/sparkwire2

Car is a d16a6 obd0 brand new engine with some internal work done to it

I thought it just sounded choppy at idle but when I drove it yesterday it sounded like a bike

Well just now I pulled the spark plugs one by one and 2-4 almost cause the engine to stall out and die, pulled the #1 plug and nothing happened

<FONT SIZE="20">BUT</FONT>

When I was slipping it back in I heard the engine noise grow, clicked it into place and it went back to stutterring

So I pulled it back out a bit, maybe 3/4" and the cylinder starts firing!!!

WTF

So I put in a set of known good magencore wires and it did the same thing, you cna pull it out a bit and the motor sounds mint, sounds perfect, plug it into place and the cylinder stops firing, for 2 sets of wires

WTF would cause this?

I'll post a video in a second


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Old May 10, 2006 | 12:23 PM
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distributer!
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Old May 10, 2006 | 12:28 PM
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The dist is throwing a mint spark, can hold the plug to the valve cover and watch it arch, it just only will ignite the cylinder at one point when the plug wire is pulled back about 1" form the top of the valve cover

WTF would cause that
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Old May 10, 2006 | 12:34 PM
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Default Re: Cylinder #1 Not Running - Got Spark/Fuel/Timing - Pull Plug Up And Its Perfect? Why? (PINKS)

oil in the hole
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Old May 10, 2006 | 12:45 PM
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How the hell would oil get into the hole? Any why would it only fire when I do this?

Watch these 2 vids

http://media.putfile.com/sparkwire
http://media.putfile.com/sparkwire2
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Old May 10, 2006 | 12:54 PM
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Default Re: Cylinder #1 Not Running - Got Spark/Fuel/Timing - Pull Plug Up And Its Perfect? Why? (PINKS)

The valve cover could be leaking oil on top of the spark plug insulator and shorting out the spark plug lead a possibilty or the insulator on the plug is cracked.
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Old May 10, 2006 | 01:13 PM
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Thank you very much sir I will switch around the plugs and try a new valve cover and lok for leaks right now
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Old May 10, 2006 | 01:20 PM
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is your firing order correct? civic firing order is 1-3-4-2 starting at the top of the dizzy going clockwise and the engine is labelled 1-2-3-4 starting from driver side going to passenger side.
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Old May 10, 2006 | 01:46 PM
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Default Re: Cylinder #1 Not Running - Got Spark/Fuel/Timing - Pull Plug Up And Its Perfect? Why? (PINKS)

From the 2nd video, it looks like the wire is grounding out. Maybe the clip in the wire is blown out and its riding down the plug and not making contact? Try a diffierent wire!

Even when #1 would kick in with the wire like that the motor sounds like its in pretty bad shape. maybe its just the sound or is there alof of motor noise?
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Old May 10, 2006 | 01:48 PM
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Can you take a picture of your distributor wiring and tell us which is where? Im thinking that might be your problem.
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Old May 10, 2006 | 05:19 PM
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For reference, I changed all four spark plugs and gapped them properly and cleaned of my spark plug wire grommets (underside of valve cover) and the problem cleared right up ran mint
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