Sup im about to get a Toda header for $850 i know there was a link of somebody that has done a whole dyno on a whole exhout upgrade with good results, but i can't find now anybody has any info on this? is it worth the money to ungrade the headers? experinces? did a search i could not find anything usefull thanks for the help

 

check my signature.

 

Supposedly it's the best header for supercharged motors.

 

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Yes sir, your the guy i was refering too thanks alot
in your opinion you think its worth the mod for the headers? and later i'll do the straight pipe thanks for the feed back

 

If you are doing a header change, tuning is just as important. You will see much better gains than just a header alone

 

Very nice gains Ferrell. How long did it take to tune?

 

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im aware of that, but this would involve getting an IE. AEM ems correct? or is there a (more cost effective) way to tune?

 

you could just do VAFC for a cheap tune but to see real gains, AEM EMS

 

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Jack had it for about a month. But how much of that was actual tuning im not sure, you'd have to ask him. But I didn't need the car for a while so I left the car and parts with him so he could install/tune/compare everything at his pace, and do what he wanted. I do know, when using the EMS, certain issues need dealt with like the cold/hot startups, street driving/tuning, and minor bugs here and there that need worked out.

 

The startup and part-throttle response are the two major tuning bugs for the 1st gen EMS. It has been slightly revised, but the startup problem is too common.

 

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that was before the j's header came out..

 

Theyre pretty much similar. 4-2-1 design, 50mm primaries, great quality.

 

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the j's
50mm for primaries
55mm for secondaries
65mm collector

not sure about the toda.... but i believe the j's header has the largest collector...

 

My HKS has 48mm primaries, and 65mm collector. Not much difference. It makes my car sound like a WRX with no cats. Seriously.

 

maybe you should buy a wrx then.........

 

An STi, maybe, WRX, no. I've always wanted a GC STi. New ones are bleh.

 

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new ones are fugly, unless their white.

 

http://www.hondata.com/reflash....html
duno if this helps

 

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the j's
50mm for primaries
55mm for secondaries
65mm collector

not sure about the toda.... but i believe the j's header has the largest collector...</TD></TR></TABLE>

js' collectors are 60mm. j's have biggest primary

 

the hondata reflash is for 06 only.

 

AEM EMS tuning usually takes 2 or less hours.

BTW:

Toda header will provide minimal gains on the AP2

 

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BTW:

Toda header will provide minimal gains on the AP2</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thank you thats exactly what i needed to know

 

I'm trying to sell my parts in threads

 

Careful Mike, don't part-sling in here. Vapor will be all up on that ***. Gotta take prices and such to PMs.