rear brake use
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rear brake use
sorry if this is a stupid question. but when do you use your rear brake?
in the msf class they say use both. but i know that most people only use the front. i dont think i ever use the rear.
when do racers use their rear brake? when they need to slow down more than they thought and are keeping their RPMs up at the same time?
im a newbie
in the msf class they say use both. but i know that most people only use the front. i dont think i ever use the rear.
when do racers use their rear brake? when they need to slow down more than they thought and are keeping their RPMs up at the same time?
im a newbie
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trail braking before entering a corner keeps the front end planted, but if done wrong will upset the suspension which could contribute to crashing.... so for the most part only use the rear on hills or for FAST stops.......
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Re: rear brake use (utensil)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by utensil »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sorry if this is a stupid question. but when do you use your rear brake?
in the msf class they say use both. but i know that most people only use the front. i dont think i ever use the rear.
when do racers use their rear brake? when they need to slow down more than they thought and are keeping their RPMs up at the same time?
im a newbie </TD></TR></TABLE>
i use the rear to keep me from moving on a hill and when im slowing teh bike. you have much more breaking power with both brakes, you just gotta go easy on the rear so it doesnt lock up. remember when you brake with teh front, you will transfer weight to the front, and the rear will acutally lighten up
in the msf class they say use both. but i know that most people only use the front. i dont think i ever use the rear.
when do racers use their rear brake? when they need to slow down more than they thought and are keeping their RPMs up at the same time?
im a newbie
</TD></TR></TABLE>i use the rear to keep me from moving on a hill and when im slowing teh bike. you have much more breaking power with both brakes, you just gotta go easy on the rear so it doesnt lock up. remember when you brake with teh front, you will transfer weight to the front, and the rear will acutally lighten up
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Re: rear brake use (utensil)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by utensil »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sorry if this is a stupid question. but when do you use your rear brake?
in the msf class they say use both. but i know that most people only use the front. i dont think i ever use the rear.
when do racers use their rear brake? when they need to slow down more than they thought and are keeping their RPMs up at the same time?
im a newbie </TD></TR></TABLE>
i use the rear to keep me from moving on a hill and when im slowing teh bike. you have much more breaking power with both brakes, you just gotta go easy on the rear so it doesnt lock up. remember when you brake with teh front, you will transfer weight to the front, and the rear will acutally lighten up
in the msf class they say use both. but i know that most people only use the front. i dont think i ever use the rear.
when do racers use their rear brake? when they need to slow down more than they thought and are keeping their RPMs up at the same time?
im a newbie
</TD></TR></TABLE>i use the rear to keep me from moving on a hill and when im slowing teh bike. you have much more breaking power with both brakes, you just gotta go easy on the rear so it doesnt lock up. remember when you brake with teh front, you will transfer weight to the front, and the rear will acutally lighten up
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Re: (cbrxgator)
Yeah, I always use both.
But I saw a vid of a track school where a prof. rider uses just the front vs. front & rear from 60-0 and its only a few feet shorter. Could that few feet make a difference? Yes, but usually not.
Eh, I guess if nothing else its a good habit for that one time that 3- 5 feet is going to make a difference.
But I saw a vid of a track school where a prof. rider uses just the front vs. front & rear from 60-0 and its only a few feet shorter. Could that few feet make a difference? Yes, but usually not.
Eh, I guess if nothing else its a good habit for that one time that 3- 5 feet is going to make a difference.
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Re: (.paul)
i like to use both almost all the time... but if im riding in the rain or on a shitty dirty road where i know the front tire could lock up im a little more careful and will use the rear break more just to be safe .... and i definelty keep the rear brake covered up when on ONE wheel!
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Re: (.paul)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .paul »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the only time i use the rear brake at the track is when i go off in theg rass</TD></TR></TABLE>
+1
Or, if I get into a turn too hot, a bit of rear brake helps slow me down while keeping my line tight.
+1
Or, if I get into a turn too hot, a bit of rear brake helps slow me down while keeping my line tight.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .paul »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the only time i use the rear brake at the track is when i go off in theg rass</TD></TR></TABLE>
hahah nice...
hahah nice...
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Re: (DusterDC5)
I don't want bad habits starting, but I never use the rear save for dirt or loose/slippery surfaces. even on inclines I use front in conjuction with clutch application. Do what your instructor tells you
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ASteele2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Your bikes have rear brakes?</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Re: (Apocalypse)
I use it to slow down a lil in turn if I feel I'm going too fast. I use it all the time on the street. I haven't had the same issues on this bike that I used to have where I'd lock the rear up a lot.
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Re: (EngineNoO9)
Instructors told me use both on the streets because it slows you down faster and saves you from having to constantly replace front pads. Use it on hills and what not also Never tracked nor are there any exciting twisty roads near me so thats the range of my rear brake usage
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Re: (gsr-2nr)
I won't say on the street.
As far as on the track goes, if you've been on a couple times you probably don't need somebody to tell you. But here goes. While you're learning a track, learning how to ride at the track, you know, whatever - anything where you're still getting sensory overload for just being there - stay off the rear brake altogether. Your much more likely to lock it up with over exuberance.
Once you're able to make clean, repeatable, quick'ish laptimes you're probably ready to try smoothly applying the rear brake just a moment before you apply the front. Done right, this'll help settle the bike into the braking zone and generally speaking, a more settled bike is a bike with more grip. A coouple folks have also pointed out that it can help you to tighten up your lines mid-corner without really unsettling the bike.
Blah blah blah... Nicky Hayden's crew wrapped a rubber band around his pedal to keep him from locking it up from all his dirt experience. Or at least that's what I heard.
As far as on the track goes, if you've been on a couple times you probably don't need somebody to tell you. But here goes. While you're learning a track, learning how to ride at the track, you know, whatever - anything where you're still getting sensory overload for just being there - stay off the rear brake altogether. Your much more likely to lock it up with over exuberance.
Once you're able to make clean, repeatable, quick'ish laptimes you're probably ready to try smoothly applying the rear brake just a moment before you apply the front. Done right, this'll help settle the bike into the braking zone and generally speaking, a more settled bike is a bike with more grip. A coouple folks have also pointed out that it can help you to tighten up your lines mid-corner without really unsettling the bike.
Blah blah blah... Nicky Hayden's crew wrapped a rubber band around his pedal to keep him from locking it up from all his dirt experience. Or at least that's what I heard.
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Re: (Muffler Bearing)
I always use both except in emergency situations, then its all front. If you have time to think about it then its probably not an "emergency" situation. When something drastic happens you wont be able to have full concentration to properly use both your brakes.
