17x8 +45 offset question, anyone w/ 8inch wheel/integra experience please read!
looking at running the motegi traklites in 17x8 +45 offset for a set of light beater wheels but curious as to what spec tires wuld be best for it. I'll most likely be running BFG KDs or KDWs. anyone w/ experience running an 8inch wheel please respond. thanks!
p.s. in 15inch this wheel weighs in at 10lbs and the 17x8 comes in at 14.5lbs, not bad.

--Kendon
p.s. in 15inch this wheel weighs in at 10lbs and the 17x8 comes in at 14.5lbs, not bad.

--Kendon
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I wouldn't. There are better choices for less money.
I assume you're planning on using 205/40-17 tires, since that's the best fit for 17" wheels on the Integra.
If you're considering the KD because you want the ultimate in dry performance, get the Falken Azenis RT-615 instead. Better dry grip, and $97/tire for the RT-615 vs $188/tire for the KD.
If you're considering the KDW because you want decent dry and wet performance and reasonable treadlife for daily driving, get the Bridgestone Potenza RE750. Similar performance, but $56/tire for the RE750 (on special at the Tire Rack), vs $123 for the KDW.
I wouldn't. There are better choices for less money.
I assume you're planning on using 205/40-17 tires, since that's the best fit for 17" wheels on the Integra.
If you're considering the KD because you want the ultimate in dry performance, get the Falken Azenis RT-615 instead. Better dry grip, and $97/tire for the RT-615 vs $188/tire for the KD.
If you're considering the KDW because you want decent dry and wet performance and reasonable treadlife for daily driving, get the Bridgestone Potenza RE750. Similar performance, but $56/tire for the RE750 (on special at the Tire Rack), vs $123 for the KDW.
nsxtasy, thanks for the reply, i am actually going w/ BFG because they are my tire sponsor, so despite the fact that they are overpriced (which they are) that's not really a problem for me since i get a new set for each show i go to. thanks for the reply, 205/40/17 seems like it's the way to go, i might try to sqeeze 215s or maybe even go 225/35 if that'd fit, every 10mm counts when traction is as big an issue as it is in typeR w/ 375whp on pump....not spinning all the way through second is my dream
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If I were running a 17x8, I think I'd shoot for around +42. But you can always use spacers with a +45.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KendonB19C5T »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nsxtasy, thanks for the reply, i am actually going w/ BFG because they are my tire sponsor, so despite the fact that they are overpriced (which they are) that's not really a problem for me since i get a new set for each show i go to. thanks for the reply, 205/40/17 seems like it's the way to go, i might try to sqeeze 215s or maybe even go 225/35 if that'd fit, every 10mm counts when traction is as big an issue as it is in typeR w/ 375whp on pump....not spinning all the way through second is my dream
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Then I suggest going for the KD in 205/40-17. Like the Azenis, the KD was designed for great dry traction. That's what you need to put all those horses to the ground.
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Then I suggest going for the KD in 205/40-17. Like the Azenis, the KD was designed for great dry traction. That's what you need to put all those horses to the ground.
I wish I had more / better info for you, but here is whats I gots:
Everything below is for a basically stock car (i.e. not lowered, stock camber, etc.)
A) I just tried out ONE 16x8s (3rd gen RX7 wheels) with 50 offset and Falken 215's on it with size 215/45/16 (I borrowed ONE since I am looking around to see what I can cram in). In the rear, it went on OK and lowered OK, but the rim was very close to the suspension component just forward of the 12:00 position. I slowly moved forward ~1 foot and it started to rub metal-metal. 17" should be able to miss even with 50 offset since the rim should be radially outside farther. One more note is that the tire didn't really stick out beyond the rim (they were about flush with each other) so if you go with 205's that should be more of an issue... i.e. don't lay them down one their side on anything rough. In the front, they seemed to fit fine, but see B) below.
B) I autox'd stock class and would cram as much rubber in as I could, but this was on the required 15x6's that had a 50 offset and a 5mm spacer in the front taking it to 45 offset. In the front I always ran 225's, but these included 225/50/15 V710s and 225/45/15 A3S04's that both run very wide (more like 235s) although being on x6 rims tends to bring them narrower (the industry standard guideline is "Section width varies approximately 0.2" (5mm) for every 0.5" change in rim width.")
Also keep in mind that this was at stock ride height. While racing, I would get very slight rubbing on the fender liner (I never heard it rub, just saw the evidence on the liner).
In the rear, the largest I ran were 225/50/15 RA-1s on 15x6 at 50 offset. These run a bit wider than most street tires (including the KDs) but again being on x6 rims narrowed them. They also had very mild rubbing in race conditions with the tires (presumably under deflection) slightly rubbing the horizontal suspension member shaped a bit like an I-beam (the trailing arm?, sorry that I don't know the names). Again, I never heard them rub, just saw where they removed some paint and left a bit of tire shavings.
C) I had access to some EVO tires/wheels; they are 235/45/17 on 17x8 with ET=38. These fit on, but were obviously too big. They came close (~2mm) to rubbing the same rear suspension arm at slow speed and probably would have rubbed under any hard driving. Also in the rear, they basically came up to meet the fender due to their larger diameter (and this was at stock ride height). They also stuck out beyond the fender by ~4mm.
In the front, they had ~20mm vertical clearance to the fender, but still stuck out beyond the fender by ~10mm. The only driving that was done with this setup was to settle the car down after being jacked up.
Modified by itr-in-sd at 6:24 AM 5/14/2006
Everything below is for a basically stock car (i.e. not lowered, stock camber, etc.)
A) I just tried out ONE 16x8s (3rd gen RX7 wheels) with 50 offset and Falken 215's on it with size 215/45/16 (I borrowed ONE since I am looking around to see what I can cram in). In the rear, it went on OK and lowered OK, but the rim was very close to the suspension component just forward of the 12:00 position. I slowly moved forward ~1 foot and it started to rub metal-metal. 17" should be able to miss even with 50 offset since the rim should be radially outside farther. One more note is that the tire didn't really stick out beyond the rim (they were about flush with each other) so if you go with 205's that should be more of an issue... i.e. don't lay them down one their side on anything rough. In the front, they seemed to fit fine, but see B) below.
B) I autox'd stock class and would cram as much rubber in as I could, but this was on the required 15x6's that had a 50 offset and a 5mm spacer in the front taking it to 45 offset. In the front I always ran 225's, but these included 225/50/15 V710s and 225/45/15 A3S04's that both run very wide (more like 235s) although being on x6 rims tends to bring them narrower (the industry standard guideline is "Section width varies approximately 0.2" (5mm) for every 0.5" change in rim width.")
Also keep in mind that this was at stock ride height. While racing, I would get very slight rubbing on the fender liner (I never heard it rub, just saw the evidence on the liner).
In the rear, the largest I ran were 225/50/15 RA-1s on 15x6 at 50 offset. These run a bit wider than most street tires (including the KDs) but again being on x6 rims narrowed them. They also had very mild rubbing in race conditions with the tires (presumably under deflection) slightly rubbing the horizontal suspension member shaped a bit like an I-beam (the trailing arm?, sorry that I don't know the names). Again, I never heard them rub, just saw where they removed some paint and left a bit of tire shavings.
C) I had access to some EVO tires/wheels; they are 235/45/17 on 17x8 with ET=38. These fit on, but were obviously too big. They came close (~2mm) to rubbing the same rear suspension arm at slow speed and probably would have rubbed under any hard driving. Also in the rear, they basically came up to meet the fender due to their larger diameter (and this was at stock ride height). They also stuck out beyond the fender by ~4mm.
In the front, they had ~20mm vertical clearance to the fender, but still stuck out beyond the fender by ~10mm. The only driving that was done with this setup was to settle the car down after being jacked up.
Modified by itr-in-sd at 6:24 AM 5/14/2006
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