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Old May 7, 2006 | 09:52 PM
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Default 1/4 mile 4th gen h22

my best of the night
r/t .412
60' 2.227
330 6.203
1/8 9.489
mph 74.98
1000 12.309
1/4 14.707
mph 94.14
i made 213whp on the dyno...how are people getting 2.0 60ft?
is it the lsd or am i just driving bad?
also if you have atts, is that the same as lsd? or do you still get the one tire fire?

my mods are all bolt ons, crower stg2 cams, hondata s100, port and polished head, stock block

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Old May 7, 2006 | 10:02 PM
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by all bolt ons you mean i/h/e as well right? that would be crazy numbers for just stg2's and a ported head. also im assuming you are a 5th gen. are you comparing the 2.0 60's to other 5th gens or 4ths? 4ths will always be faster because of less weight.
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Old May 7, 2006 | 10:04 PM
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good pull bro!
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Old May 7, 2006 | 10:08 PM
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mine is a 4th gen
comparing to 4th or 5th gen as long as its with an h22.
by bolt ons i mean, i/h/e/p/tb...thats all i can think of right now lol
also i am shifting at 7000 because i have stock springs/retainers so my tuner decided to lower my rev limiter to be safe.
i would probably run a bit faster if i reved to 7500 wouldn't i?
so anybody know about the atts?
seems like i should be able to run a bit faster or get faster 60' times but maybe other people just arn't mentioning there atts or lsd.
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Old May 7, 2006 | 10:16 PM
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smart tuner putting your limiter at 7k. would get those springs and retainers upgraded asap so you dont have to pull some bent valves out of your pistons. better to be safe than sorry. yea definatley would get better times with revving past 7k, one thing being vtec would get a longer time to stay open. with an upgraded valvetrain, i think you can push it to 8k np. atts works almost like a lsd but is electronically controlled and alot pickier. if your're spinning out, you are obviously losing time and engine revs. nice times btw. good choice on cams what is your vtec crossover point on your car?
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Old May 7, 2006 | 10:23 PM
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vtec is at 4900
i chose those cams because it said its ok w/ stock rev limiter but now maybe i want to rev a little higher then stock?
plans are to sleeve the block and 12:1 compression and also lsd.
my goal is to hit 13.9 on an all motor street prelude
not stripped...pump gas.
you guys think its possible to hit the 13.9? definately need the lsd right?
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Old May 7, 2006 | 10:27 PM
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not to hit the hp, but to have traction and control yes. i thougth stock rev on h22vtec was 7500? in the camshaft thread it has been said time and again to upgrade valvetrain on anything over stg1. 13.9 is possible, what i/h/e you have on right now? definatly would have to bump up the rev limit to 8k to hit the 13's from what i hear, and that means complete upgraded valvetrain. would look into getting euroR intake manifold as well to get some more air to the block.
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Old May 7, 2006 | 10:43 PM
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yeah need the lsd to get the 60' time down....i have a skunk2 IM
the stock limiter is at 7700....looking at getting the RM or supertech valvetrain
then will be sending out the block....it wont be done this year though....hopefully ill have the valvetrain before the end of this year.

im using a AEM cai, greddy header, and custom 2.5" exhaust crush bent....i will like to upgrade to a mandrel bent sometime later...magnaflow high flow cat and resonator and an apexi N1.
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Old May 7, 2006 | 11:06 PM
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unless you've done the upper conversion to the greddy suggest selling and getting a rmf. it does wonders for airflow and hp of course. nice setup dude
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Old May 7, 2006 | 11:43 PM
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what upper conversion?
you mean the 2.5" collector mod?
i think thats what i will be doing and saving my money....i know the rmf and smsp are awesome headers but that would put a hole in my wallet....i rather spend that money towards my block and try to hit 250whp with a greddy header...
wouldn't that be something.....
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Old May 8, 2006 | 06:40 AM
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not to be a dick or anything but that is kind of a weak time espically for that hp. ill give you a rundown of my setup and time.

94 accord 2 dr
jdm h22
intake
exhaust
lsd
dual friction clutch (dont reccomend)
street tires
2 busted axles
hondata s200

ive got about 180hp and ran a 14.85 with a 2.3 60 ft
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Old May 8, 2006 | 07:17 AM
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firstly, this can be posted in the 1/4 mile thread, we already have one

secondly, that time is pretty slow.....your 60' isnt that bad i guess, but your time is horrible, rev that motor out to 7600 and you will cut major time off
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Old May 8, 2006 | 08:20 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mgags7 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> rev that motor out to 7600 and you will cut major time off</TD></TR></TABLE>

i am putting some crower stage II in right now, should be done in a day or two, i have the valve train also and i was wondering:

how high can i rev, i heard something about the piston to rod ratio , is that something to consider?

what is the stock rev limiter set at?

and if i am getting it tuned with a VAFCII is there any way they can make the rev limiter higher, say around 8000?

what does everyone recommend?
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Old May 8, 2006 | 08:23 AM
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with that valvetrain youre fine revving to 8000

dont do it every day, but an h22 can rev to 8k just fine
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Old May 8, 2006 | 11:24 AM
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vafcII = weaksause
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Old May 8, 2006 | 11:38 AM
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You can rev til the cows come home....it dosent mean anything! Look at your dyno sheets and look where you power starts to dip on the upper lobe of your stage 2 cams.I know a stock h22 cam dosent make any power past 7000rpm....even though it revs to 7200 to 7500 all day.If your new cams make power to eight grand than upgrade your valvetrain and rev it to 8k,if not dont worry about redlining your car.

Also not to be a downer but 14.7 seems way slow with your mods.....does your local track suck?Is it slick as all hell or what?Beacuse I have run 14.7 on street tires in my bolt on h22 with clutch/flywheel/ no sway bar and a forbidden short shifter,and I shift at 6900rpms like clock work.Ive seen a stock h22 with an Cai run 15.0 flat,so ur 14.7 with stage 2 cams seems slow.How is ur wheel hop?
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Old May 8, 2006 | 11:39 AM
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my h22a makes power up to 7800 stock internals, i/e no h. lsd is always a blast and helps a **** load on launch!!!!
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Old May 8, 2006 | 11:44 AM
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Not calling BS....but I have seen 20+ h22 dynos and have never seen stock camshafts make power to 7800rpms.So if you have a dyno sheet that proves different,I would love to see it.But as far as the limited slip diff goes,it makes ahuge difference at the track,if u r really tring to cut time get a lsd.Oh yeah and drag slicks will but you close to a full second.
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Old May 8, 2006 | 11:58 AM
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you pay for the dyno, if it doesnt make power to 7800rpm i will give you the money you payed for the dyno.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93sivtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not calling BS....but I have seen 20+ h22 dynos and have never seen stock camshafts make power to 7800rpms.So if you have a dyno sheet that proves different,I would love to see it.But as far as the limited slip diff goes,it makes ahuge difference at the track,if u r really tring to cut time get a lsd.Oh yeah and drag slicks will but you close to a full second.</TD></TR></TABLE>

call it what you want, i know what my motor can and can't handle.
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Old May 8, 2006 | 12:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AznBlueBoy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...you mean the 2.5" collector mod?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Do it The Greddy with the 2.5 inch mod is a very competent header For a long while it was considered one of the best set-ups
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Old May 8, 2006 | 01:14 PM
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with those mod's you are gotta be at least mid to low 14's. its all depending on the driver of course. i hit 14.6 in my 94 lude h22a1 cai/h and act stage 1 clutch. i think u can do better... let us know of your future runs!. ps i hit horrible 60ft times.. 2.6 to be exact ill be lucky to get 2.2's...
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Old May 8, 2006 | 01:15 PM
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My best time was a 14.4 @ 96mph. My car is 100% stock. It also has 145,000 miles.

If you're making 213 whp, and you ran a 14.7, then you need to practice...a lot.
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Old May 8, 2006 | 04:29 PM
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well next time i go ill get the rev limiter changed back to 7700...
are you guys in 4th by the end because i am....
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Old May 8, 2006 | 04:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by helicopter201 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">smart tuner putting your limiter at 7k. would get those springs and retainers upgraded asap so you dont have to pull some bent valves out of your pistons. better to be safe than sorry. yea definatley would get better times with revving past 7k, one thing being vtec would get a longer time to stay open. with an upgraded valvetrain, i think you can push it to 8k np. atts works almost like a lsd but is electronically controlled and alot pickier. if your're spinning out, you are obviously losing time and engine revs. nice times btw. good choice on cams what is your vtec crossover point on your car?</TD></TR></TABLE>

u can still mess up ur engine even the rev limiter is set that low?

also with mystock cams i think it made power any higher than 7k
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Old May 8, 2006 | 04:47 PM
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the 178 was in 3rd gear, 167 was in 4th gear
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