All Motor / Naturally Aspirated No power adders

[Dyno] USDM ITR motor + Skunk2 Pro 1 Cams

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 6, 2006 | 11:53 PM
  #1  
bs-inc's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,136
Likes: 0
From: Kansas city
Default [Dyno] USDM ITR motor + Skunk2 Pro 1 Cams

USDM ITR Motor
1.8L Hytech Header
AEM CAI
Skunk2 Pro 1 Camshafts
Kteller 2.5" Exhaust
Supertech Flat Face Valves
Buddy Club 0.4mm Head Gasket
Lucas 310cc Injectors

Tuned to a conservative 13-13.5 A/F
Cam Gears are left at 0/0



comment/suggestions ...
Reply
Old May 7, 2006 | 12:08 AM
  #2  
bs-inc's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,136
Likes: 0
From: Kansas city
Default Re: [Dyno] USDM ITR motor + Skunk2 Pro 1 Cams (bs-inc)

I also forgot to add that I made this with STOCK ITR cams.



I like my ITR cams powerband better.
Reply
Old May 7, 2006 | 12:23 AM
  #3  
JDM_Ej's Avatar
HT Order of Merit
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Active Streak: 60 Days
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 7,194
Likes: 3
From: Connecticut
Default Re: [Dyno] USDM ITR motor + Skunk2 Pro 1 Cams (bs-inc)

Doesn't look like very much improvement... no?

Why did you go with the Skunk2's?
Reply
Old May 7, 2006 | 12:44 AM
  #4  
bs-inc's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,136
Likes: 0
From: Kansas city
Default Re: [Dyno] USDM ITR motor + Skunk2 Pro 1 Cams (JDM_Ej)

Not so much. I went with the Pro 1s because I saw a lot of people having great results with them. I also got a very good deal on them as well.
Reply
Old May 7, 2006 | 12:55 AM
  #5  
jamessh1's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 826
Likes: 0
From: winnipeg, manitoba, canada
Default Re: [Dyno] USDM ITR motor + Skunk2 Pro 1 Cams (bs-inc)

sure it wasnt sk2 stage 1 cams? there should be way more power everywhere, so the cams may need gear tuning but something doesnt seem right. How does the car idle? if its not on the lumpy side you may have non-pro1 cams.
Reply
Old May 7, 2006 | 01:12 AM
  #6  
bs-inc's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,136
Likes: 0
From: Kansas city
Default Re: [Dyno] USDM ITR motor + Skunk2 Pro 1 Cams (jamessh1)

I'm pretty sure they are Pro 1s. I got them brand new in a box unopened direct from Group A.

Reply
Old May 7, 2006 | 02:22 AM
  #7  
UncleD's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 8,465
Likes: 4
From: GO PACKERS
Default Re: [Dyno] USDM ITR motor + Skunk2 Pro 1 Cams (bs-inc)

I edited my post. The Pro1's aren't all hype, this thread just caught me at a bad time. Obviously the cams make power, they just may not suit this particular motor well. Keep pushin it bs, she's got more power in her.


Modified by clean rice at 8:15 AM 5/18/2006
Reply
Old May 7, 2006 | 02:59 AM
  #8  
Runnerdown's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 3,537
Likes: 5
From: Albany, NY
Default Re: [Dyno] USDM ITR motor + Skunk2 Pro 1 Cams (clean rice)

was that street tuned or dyno. Something looks very wrong.
Reply
Old May 7, 2006 | 07:04 AM
  #9  
jdm_ef9's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 2,157
Likes: 0
From: Pittsburgh, PA
Default Re: [Dyno] USDM ITR motor + Skunk2 Pro 1 Cams (Runnerdown)



Cam gears left at 0?
Reply
Old May 7, 2006 | 07:13 AM
  #10  
Phatch99's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,596
Likes: 0
From: MN
Default Re: [Dyno] USDM ITR motor + Skunk2 Pro 1 Cams (jdm_ef9)

all i can say is wow!!!! 1hp only from itr cams to skunk2 pro 1's???
Reply
Old May 7, 2006 | 07:26 AM
  #11  
b19coupe's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 9,854
Likes: 4
From: Southern California, U.S.A.
Default Re: [Dyno] USDM ITR motor + Skunk2 Pro 1 Cams (bs-inc)

There is more in the motor. Cam gear tuning, VTEC x-over, ignition timing maps. Something looks amiss. Both graphs have a dip at about 6,500; the question: why?
Reply
Old May 7, 2006 | 07:39 AM
  #12  
hybridej7's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,442
Likes: 0
From: Stafford Va
Default Re: [Dyno] USDM ITR motor + Skunk2 Pro 1 Cams (b19coupe)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b19coupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There is more in the motor. Cam gear tuning, VTEC x-over, ignition timing maps. Something looks amiss. Both graphs have a dip at about 6,500; the question: why?</TD></TR></TABLE>

i agree there has got to be more power somewhere. my stock jdm gsr w/ skunk2 mani, stock header, intake, tuned on S200 made 175/135......
i dunno, just my .02
Reply
Old May 7, 2006 | 09:01 AM
  #13  
Ivan's Avatar
senior gold member
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 4,090
Likes: 0
From: dont fake, the funk, earf
Default Re: [Dyno] USDM ITR motor + Skunk2 Pro 1 Cams (bs-inc)

maybe they're not pro1's and in fact stage 1's.
Reply
Old May 7, 2006 | 09:20 AM
  #14  
Mr. Tech's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 90
Likes: 0
From: Middle, USA y0
Default Re: [Dyno] USDM ITR motor + Skunk2 Pro 1 Cams (Ivan)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ivan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">maybe they're not pro1's and in fact stage 1's.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Umm look at the pic above.. Yes they ARE pro1s and yes they are stage 1s
Reply
Old May 7, 2006 | 09:30 AM
  #15  
Rollo Lawson's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,036
Likes: 0
From: T Dot
Default Re: [Dyno] USDM ITR motor + Skunk2 Pro 1 Cams (Mr. Tech)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr. Tech &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Yes they ARE pro1s and yes they are stage 1s</TD></TR></TABLE>

what?
Reply
Old May 7, 2006 | 09:31 AM
  #16  
hybridmiklo's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,002
Likes: 0
From: Riverside
Default Re: [Dyno] USDM ITR motor + Skunk2 Pro 1 Cams (Mr. Tech)

Doesn't look like the engine was tuned 100%. There is a pretty big dip when vtec crosses over and another dip around 4000-5000. If it is tuned go to a different tuner. Also what did you use to tune it with?
Reply
Old May 7, 2006 | 09:46 AM
  #17  
bs-inc's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,136
Likes: 0
From: Kansas city
Default Re: [Dyno] USDM ITR motor + Skunk2 Pro 1 Cams (hybridmiklo)

I had a Hondata S200, but it wasn't working out well. Then he just switched me to crome and I got that.
Reply
Old May 7, 2006 | 10:24 AM
  #18  
Combustion Contraption's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 10,170
Likes: 3
From: So Cal
Default

The 1hp peak gain can be lived with if the area under the curve is fatter, which it doesnt look like it is.

How does the car idle with so much overlap? Usually with the pro1's one of the cams is retarded to reduce the overlap. But i agree with the lot here in that more tuning is needed to take advantage.
Reply
Old May 7, 2006 | 10:34 AM
  #19  
xtrafastcivic's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 2,482
Likes: 1
From: Bay Area, CA
Default Re: (Combustion Contraption)

this is untuned.... pro 1's need some tuning....
Reply
Old May 7, 2006 | 10:41 AM
  #20  
RedEj8's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 1,326
Likes: 0
From: Macon, GA, U.S.
Default Re: [Dyno] USDM ITR motor + Skunk2 Pro 1 Cams (bs-inc)

About 1 more hp and 2ft/lbs less torque..I think u need a better tuner, and play with the cam gears.
Reply
Old May 7, 2006 | 10:48 AM
  #21  
Dat1BVtecN's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,550
Likes: 0
From: Iowa
Default Re: [Dyno] USDM ITR motor + Skunk2 Pro 1 Cams (bs-inc)

yea definately something doesnt look right, when i had my itr cams in my build and switched to Skunk2 Stage 2's i noticed a great difference from 6.5k all the way to 9.4k but i had a great ECU to go with it. are these SKunk2 Pro 1's like **** then???
Reply
Old May 7, 2006 | 10:53 AM
  #22  
RPRacing's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,851
Likes: 0
From: Virginia Beach, VA, USA
Default

i agree with the tuning. did you degree the cams in? were they swung on the dyno? the vtec crossover needs to be tweaked. It looks like vtec is set at 6300. Thats a bit high for them. i think 6 might better suit, but it depends on the motor.

Both dips in the graph greatly affect the powerband. get another tuner, or get back on the dyno if there are other circumstances with him that we dont know about
Reply
Old May 7, 2006 | 11:11 AM
  #23  
rainmanEK's Avatar
big strong guy
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 3,455
Likes: 0
From: LUTZ, fl, usa
Default Re: (RPRacing)

I could only make more power with My Skunk Cams with Cam Advancing, I think I had +4 intake and +2 Exhaust?

Eric
Reply
Old May 7, 2006 | 01:47 PM
  #24  
whiskaz's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 319
Likes: 1
From: Arkansas/Kansas
Default Re: [Dyno] USDM ITR motor + Skunk2 Pro 1 Cams (reddohcvtec)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by reddohcvtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">About 1 more hp and 2ft/lbs less torque..I think u need a better tuner, and play with the cam gears.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i agree
Reply
Old May 7, 2006 | 02:22 PM
  #25  
Comp97GSR's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 4,540
Likes: 0
From: Coming to a parking lot, near you
Default Re: [Dyno] USDM ITR motor + Skunk2 Pro 1 Cams (whiskaz)

Was this at NU Image? If so,who did the tuning?
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 01:40 PM.