I'm in the industry, so I have access to some info that average consumers dont have access to. I work for Volkswagen of America and I was working at the NY auto show on Sunday. I spoke to the marketing director for American Honda, and I caussually asked him "Whats the word on the RSX-R". His reply was, "There is no word, because that car will never make it here". I then asked why, and he said that the car was not coming for three major reasons. And I repeat, this is not speculation or hearsay. These words were uttered straight for the mouth of this guy, who is a major decision maker for Honda of America.

1. It is not US crashtest worthy in JDM/Euro spec form (bumper supports, side bags, etc.)

2. Will NOT meet US '03-'04 LEV standards in the 220hp Type R configuration.

3. Making the car US market friendly would not make it affordable nor desirable to previous Type R owners.

 

good thing I would never buy one anyway...

 

Enough said.
Just get the good parts and put them on a Type-S.

 

 

1. How's the body different from regular RSX?
2. Aren't Japan emissions much strickter than US?
3. How? Worked before... its almost a regular RSX

 

But there are ways to fix them:

1- add bumper support (like what is done to the old Integra)
2- detune it to meet the standards (like what they did with the old integra)
3- replace all the expensive stuff (like seats, just like what they did to the old ITR)

 

You`d be surprised how much Honda employees are kept in the dark. they said this one year before the s2k hit the states, too. I`m in the "industry" also.

Ryan

 

 

they should bring the R back!!!

its the next generation!!!!

i dont' understand why their not bringing it over!

when all the civics and integras 10 years of technology die
out (unbelievable but will someday) RSX's and Civics now will be

talked about
engine swaps
N/A buildups
turbo!!!
NOS ect...

I pray to the honda engineers
the smartest people in the world!



[Modified by BoM, 12:35 PM 4/10/2002]

 

Gee, if I worked for Honda, that's exactly what I'd tell the Volkswagon guy!

 

in regards to the emmisions...

Yes JADM has stricter emmisions laws, but you have to remember that they get a minimum of 100 octane over there. So it burns cleaner. Being the cheap bastards that we are... we get 87 which sucks *****. I would gladly pay more money for better gas.

 

Fine. So we will have it in Germany someday. Sorry for you guys..

 

I don't believe that at all...........Honda would be stupid to not bring it over.......for the past few years millions of teenagers and import enthusiastes have gawked at and wanted a Type R.......this is an image thing.........the teg Type R was not even very profitable for Honda but I'm sure it helped sell a lot of their other cars

 

Well said.
I don't see no sheetmetal difference between the DC5R and the RSX.
Unlike the DC2R, where Honda had to convert it to the 4 round lights front end in order to sell it in the States (so that they could put stupid styro foam behind the bumper cover).

Yes they are, and not just emission. That's why most cars over there are trashed after ~30K miles because it would cost the owner less to just get a new car than fixing up the old one to pass all kinds of inspection.

So I really don't see how the words coming out from that guy's mouth being trustworthy.

 

Doesn't 100 octane not burn as clean? I think you have to be able to burn that high of an octane (High compression, turbo, etc.) for it to completely burn at all. That is why California switched to 91 octane instead of 92, not all the "premium" burning cars needed 92 octane.

 

we are running 99oct as standard

 

It's 98 RON = 95 pump octane..... in Europe

 

How far is Optimax 99oct comparable to US-stuff?

 

I think a bit better than their 94 US octane premium gas.

 

isn't that a type-S???

 

They gas is cleaner.
That's why Mitsubishi's GDI (gasoline direct injection) gives them as high as 56mpg and it is abscent in the rest of the world. Low sulfur contamination makes difference.
Also, Australian Type R got the RSX-S engine, IMHO it supports the idea of emissions control difficulties.

 

Hmmm.... yes. Well maybe a lowered Type S + Type R body kit then minus A/C and some stuff...

 

that sucks!

 

The RSX-S as is now comes with 200hp, correct? If they de-tuned the RSX-R to meet CA smog requirements there would hardly be a distinction between the S and R versions.

However, the S2k is a ULEV vehicle...

Methinks HoA is st00pid.

Tom

 

Some of you may be skeptical, but the fact of the matter is that. ANything short of the JDM RSX-R is gonna be a gay attempt at a "specialty car". Which will be a classic case of "Badge engineering". Leave it alone and leave it overseas. It will only make out DC2-R's more valuable and rare.