my boy claims that i zc is better than an ls as far as speed and installing it. is this true or is he full of sh.t

 

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Sounds like both of you are arguing about something that you know nothing about. I would take a LS any day of the week over a ZC

 

The ls is definitely better. However, the zc when everything is installed is better on the pocketbook.

 

depends on what u use the car for...
personally i would go with the ls...ull be happier in the long run

 

yea you could probably do the zc for much less and is an easier install but id still go with the LS

 

Lets put it this way....ZC cost's about 800 at most with motor and tranny and you can get a professional to drop it in with his eyes closed and 9 fingers tied behind his back...its terrible with the trq numbers with a comfortable 130-140HP and not too much after market support...sounds nice, but the B18B is about maybe 1100-1500 (a rough estimate) and it should bolt rite in with MINOR mods if any at all its got about 140HP or so and the trq is about 130...and it has very strong aftermarket support....both are great motors to turbo the ZC just has less parts out there for it......if I were U i'd go for a B20...same cost as the ZC about same HP numbers as the B18B but the trq numbers are crazy and u'll B able to use Bseries parts....

 

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The ZC torque is no worse than any other D, but probably responds better to boost than any other D. The LS will go in with the same mods as any other B, but will end up costing twice what the ZC would. B20, would end up costing much more than the ZC, more than the LS as well.

What it all boils down to is what your definition of better is
Neither are hard on the install, the ZC would be easier

 

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werdtizzle.

 

The ZC is cheap, and for people who say there is no aftermarket parts for the motor, there are plenty, might take bit longer to research what part fits, and from which car. Over all the LS is a better motor, but gonna cost a pretty penny. Basically if you have an Si all you need is the motor and wiring the dizzy, everything else you can use from your car. While an LS you basically would need everything, Motor, tranny, ECU, mounts, Linkage....

All depends on your budget.

 

COMBINATION IS EVERYTHING!

 

i agree, the ZC is a great motor for the price. but the LS is better for overall performance, i.e. more torque, and more power, as far as i know, i think its like 145hp and like 130 lbs of torque, anybody feel free to corect me if im wrong on the numbers, which i probably am.

 

i dynoed a b18a1 at 114hp and tq with the timing retarded 2 degress

 

cool, i was talkin to the flywheel, but i have always wondered the wheel numbers of a b18,

 

here is dyno chart for stock internal DOHC ZC with IHE

 

Ls anyday over a shitty zc--&gt;
u knew that right...?? i hope sooooooooooo

 

I'd go ls then turbo the sucker.

 

hey turbo dohc zc runs just as good.zc great fi motor.zc only cuaght bad rap cause its a D and not B.got to understand every motor has it good side and bad side of it.

 

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How'd you come to such a profound conclusion?

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My stock DOHC w/ I/H stock exhaust...118whp, pretty close

 

I'm sure that the LS is better but I don't mine owning a ZC.

 

LS power for sure. Had both dohc zc and LS in my car with same mods and for the money LS is a little nicer

 

i love my ZC, but i think i would be more happy with a LS. but for the money, u cant really beat a ZC IMO. i dont know how much a LS swap is, but my ZC was about $750, cuz i still have my stock DX tranny( it blows) but i cant wait to boost it with it, its gona be fun on the highway

 

of course the ls b18 motor is better then the dohc zc..you cant really compare the 2 motors at all,,its not fair..best thing about the zc is the fact that it bolts right in using stock mounts,,bolts up to stock d-series tranny,,can be had for around $500 nonstolen everywhere..but the b-series is just a better platform if you want overall power,lots and lots of aftermarket choices,etc,etc..

 

I paid $900 for my DOHC ZC and my ZC transmission (which I love btw, especially because no one has it) + the integra axles. It was definitely cheap, and I am definitely satisfied. I show up a fair share of people who think they can smoke me all because my car looks like a POS. The engine was incredibly easy to bolt in too.

My next project in the next 1-3 years is going to be ls-vtec tho.

I say that for beginners to engine swaps ( like I was) should go with a D first, then go to a B. That's just my opinion.

 

an ls motor is pretty much the same thing just .2 litre displacement more, so obviously an ls is a better start than a zc if you plan to do more work

 

LS for sure