I realize this isn't quite the motorsports thing, but you guys would know the best about brake pads....

When doing a FWD burnout (stick with me), do you guys have any recommendations for brake pads that will stop the car from walking? I mean, I'm having the worst time keeping my Suby stationary when burning the front tires with the parking brake on. Obviously, I would like to keep the rear wheels from moving, I don't want to wear the center diff.

Is a brake pad that stops best as good when it needs to keep things stopped?

Does Newton's second law apply to the best brake pad?

 

sigh. you are trying to do a burnout on a car that is normally awd? (I am assuming your suby is awd). it seems quite simple to me why your car is "walking" during the burnout. the power is being given to all 4 wheels.

you will quickly ruin your car by trying to stop the power from getting to 2 of those wheels.

 

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Does Newton's second law apply to the best brake pad?

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You my friend need a kick in the *****.


Edo

 

should i ruin this now?

edo, things aren't always as they seem.

 

there were front drive subarus. but hardly enough power for burnouts....

 

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Uhhh. no. DCCD disconnects the rear wheels when the parking brake is set.

Duh.

Any real answers?!?!

 

Your Subaru probably uses a shoe/drum for the parking brake application, so changing out the rear pads wouldn't have an effect.

 

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Uhhh. no. DCCD disconnects the rear wheels when the parking brake is set.

Duh.

Any real answers?!?!

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I also have an AWD car and it never needed any burnouts. Cold as it sat no heat in the tires it pulls 1.7 Sec 60 foot times. You maybe need to learn how to doa Take off in a AWD car.

Edo

 

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Shoes/pads/whatever. I need compound suggestions... the Wearforevers in there now ain't doing it.

 

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Anyone can launch an AWD car... that's for 6-year-olds. Not every AWD driver can make the car disappear into the tire smoke....

 

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Then you should move on to something else for burnouts. And try the other forums. burnouts are not required in Road raceing. ( unless you win. )


Edo--trying to get his post count up. Cuz the board is dead.

 

you'll need some EBC Pink Stuff e-brake shoes for maximum burnout holding capacity.

 

You're not going to find any performance compound for the brake shoes, there is no market for it.

 

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Tried... everyone who "claims" to know anything says EBC is the shiznit. Or Project Mu.

 

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so all the EF guys are running stock shoes?!?!

 

AFAIK, EF guys don't run subaru brakes in the rear.

You can find higher-performance brake shoes for select applications, subaru parking brake shoe not being one of them.

I don't even know what Subaru you have, so I'm not dealing with specifics.

 

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If you want to impress people, make the car disappear into a cloud of smoke by doing "cookies".

 

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Compound, compound, compound. I can always get someone to smelt it on a stock backing plate.

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DCCD wasn't enough of a clue?

 

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If you can get someone to make that shape for you then you might as well have them recommend a compound for you.


yes, i know this isn't serious

 

Turn your wheel all the way to the left.... Rev it to 7k...sidestep the clutch. Hold car at 5-6k rpms and keep the wheel pinned to the left.

 

Do what americans do and get line locks

 

IBTL!

 

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Uhhh. no. DCCD disconnects the rear wheels when the parking brake is set.

Duh.

Any real answers?!?!

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since we're entertaining this, your statment is incorrect. and you obviously do not know how DCCD works. if you want to battle over subaru technical points, you have picked the worng person.

 

With key on engine off and the wheel locked all the way to the left, set the DCCD to full rear and pull the wiper stalk twice towards you. Then cycle the intercooler water spray switch from auto to manual and back again. Now, with your RIGHT FOOT depress the clutch while turning on the engine, take your LEFT foot and raise the RPMs to 3670 +/- 50rpm for no shorter than 10 seconds. That Disables DCCD to the rear wheels. Rinse and repeat to enable it.

 

This is on the 91 SE-R, right? Gotta be.

First, I'd replace the rear shoes with Porterfield R4. How much cooler can you get than Carbon KEVLAR? Not only fade resistant, bulletproof.

Second, you need to take some vice grips to clamp the front brake lines. Get 'em on nice and tight, you have to make sure the brake fluid can't get around the kink in the lines.

Most importantly-- make sure you lube up the front rubber, preferrably in a wet box. Sometimes approaching the box from the rear produces the best effect. This is important for a satisfying burnout.

We haven't talked about springrates yet... I think you actually want to soften up the rear spring and add some bump, to make the settling of the rear suspension a little smoother. You don't want the rear to hop and the front to pull you off?

Chris, looks forward to share a satisfying experience with you in the wet box with a couple of smoking rubbers!