is that ok?

 

I dunno... but that doesn't look too normal.


Then again I've never used their springs.

 

Wow, that does not look normal at all.

Wonder whats the deal.? hmm

 

is there any official skunk2 Representative over here?

 

That is how my brothers H&R race sit. How does it ride?

 

The progressive coils are binding.

There was a thread on Omnipower springs that looked exactly the same, I believe they were defective.

But yeah, they springs shouldn't be binding like that a ride height.

 

It very well could be normal. The coils that are bound up could be Skunk-2's way of adressing the need for "helper" springs when using linear rate lowering springs. Usually linear rate springs are too short to take up the whole length of the shock at full droop. The "progressive" section could just be designed to bind at ride height, and take up the slack at full droop.

It would probably be best to call Skunk-2 and ask them directly. You could also e-mail them this photo & see what they say...

 

I just sent them this:

sirs.
this is allready the fifth email that i'm sending you about 96-98 "race" springs installation.

this is a picture of the rear spring on a new kyb shock.
is that the way it should be?


http://i26.photobucket.com/alb...5.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/alb...2.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/alb...3.jpg


i need a answer ASAP !!!
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i bet they wont even bother answering me.

 

What do they look like when they're free standing? I'd pull that setup back apart and see what they do unloaded.

 

The springs had more gap when unloaded.

 

I quess I'm wondering if it looks like a progressive spring or a linear one. My first guess would be, something's binding those coils up. Coils touching each other is never right, ever.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MasterKwan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Coils touching each other is never right, ever. </TD></TR></TABLE>

That's not true...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94eg! &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

That's not true...</TD></TR></TABLE>

how can i be sure.... ? these damn skunk2 employees dont respond emails or answer the phone.....

I HATE SKUNK2!!!
THEY HAVE THE SHITTYEST COSTUMER SERVICE EVER...!!! I KNOW I WILL NEVER BUY ANY SKUNK2 PRODUCTS AGAIN

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RACEPAK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how can i be sure.... ? </TD></TR></TABLE>
You can't untill skunk talks to you

But see the set of small red springs above the black ones in this picture? That could very well be what skunk has done with their springs. Just like 94eg was saying.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94eg! &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It very well could be normal. The coils that are bound up could be Skunk-2's way of adressing the need for "helper" springs when using linear rate lowering springs. Usually linear rate springs are too short to take up the whole length of the shock at full droop. The "progressive" section could just be designed to bind at ride height, and take up the slack at full droop.

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EXACTLY what I was thinkin. My buddy has RED springs and shocks and they were the same way the close binded coils at the top closed together like that too! And I told him its the helper spring, unlike my coilovers ( and others) that are loose!!

As long as the other half of the springs stay coiled then I would think your fine!!!

 

If they were close together, I might agree. They're touching. They're not even springs when they touch like that, they'll act like solid metal and won't compress at all. They're in coil bind at normal ride height. Coil bind damages springs.

If you look closely at your own picture, you'll see the tender spring isn't touching coil to coil. They're much thinner than the main springs. What you're seeing is the accordion from the shock cover that sits UNDER the springs.

Look at this page, you'll see I'm right.

http://www.tanabe-usa.com/coilovers/s-oc.asp

Look at "Helper Springs".

Take that **** apart and see what's wrong with it. You've either got the wrong springs or you're binding them because you didn't cut the dust shield or something. Have you ever seen a proper spring install look that F'd up?

I'm looking here

http://www.skunk2.com/Merchant...e=LWR

Maybe I'm wrong and Skunk2 is doing something odd like that on purpose.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MasterKwan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If they were close together, I might agree. They're touching. They're not even springs when they touch like that, they'll act like solid metal and won't compress at all. They're in coil bind at normal ride height. Coil bind damages springs.

If you look closely at your own picture, you'll see the tender spring isn't touching coil to coil. They're much thinner than the main springs. What you're seeing is the accordion from the shock cover that sits UNDER the springs.

Look at this page, you'll see I'm right.

http://www.tanabe-usa.com/coilovers/s-oc.asp

Look at "Helper Springs".

Take that **** apart and see what's wrong with it. You've either got the wrong springs or you're binding them because you didn't cut the dust shield or something. Have you ever seen a proper spring install look that F'd up?

I'm looking here

http://www.skunk2.com/Merchant...e=LWR

Maybe I'm wrong and Skunk2 is doing something odd like that on purpose. </TD></TR></TABLE>
The pic of the tanabes is not installed, they are meant to be flat, then expand at full droop

 

They're coilovers, they can't "Droop" any more than not being installed. In that picture they're as extended as they can get limited by the length of the shock.

I think you're right but, in the opposite direction. They're fully expanded now uninstalled but, will compress down to nothing installed because of their low spring rates.

I can see what you're saying about the Skunk2 springs too. I guess they're a poor man's helper springs. The pictures on the web site seem to confirm it.

 

looks fine to me.
my h&r dose the same

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MasterKwan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">They're coilovers, they can't "Droop" any more than not being installed. In that picture they're as extended as they can get limited by the length of the shock.

I think you're right but, in the opposite direction. They're fully expanded now uninstalled but, will compress down to nothing installed because of their low spring rates.

I can see what you're saying about the Skunk2 springs too. I guess they're a poor man's helper springs. The pictures on the web site seem to confirm it.

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Yeah that's what i was talking about, taking all the weight off them and them expanding from being in the compressed postion is full droop no? That's what i was trying to say atleast

 

i hagve a set of rsr springs on mine and its never looked like that.... i would take them apart and start puting foot to *** at skunk2

 

i have a set of rsr springs on mine and its never looked like that.... i would take them apart and start puting foot to *** at skunk2

 

You are wrong. There is nothing wrong w/ the coils touching eachother and it is fairly common. They are called "take up" coils and are used just to give the spring more length. My only beef is that they should be tubed so they don't cause any noise.

I would still make sure you received the correct kit, though.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtecvoodoo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You are wrong. There is nothing wrong w/ the coils touching eachother and it is fairly common. They are called "take up" coils and are used just to give the spring more length. My only beef is that they should be tubed so they don't cause any noise.

I would still make sure you received the correct kit, though.</TD></TR></TABLE>

thanks for the answre. i'm calm now...

i checked by the item number and thay match to the skunk 2 cat.
96-00 civic.