Honda Accord (1990 - 2002) Includes 1997 - 1999 Acura CL

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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 06:13 PM
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i just picked up an accord from a cousin and it would drive fine for awhile then it won't go into any gears at all for awhile. the only way to get it back in gear is shut off the engine and shift from there. what's causing this? cound it be just the shift linkages or do i need a new transmission? what i don't get is when it's fine....it's fine. only on ocasions and starting to happen more often now.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 06:14 PM
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What year and what model was the accord?
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 06:23 PM
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it's a 93 lx 5 speed.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 06:41 PM
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Sounds like the same intermitten issue I'm dealing with on my 91 LX. I changed the AT Control Unit seems to be working now. Mine did the same thing for a few months. Then one day it just wouldn't "reset".
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 06:46 PM
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Didn't see the "5 speed" shouldn't be the AT Control Unit.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 06:46 PM
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If you have to turn the engine off in order to be able to shift again, then I would guess the problem is electrical somewhere in there.
I had never heard of such problem happening to a manual tranny like that.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 06:51 PM
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I was doing a search under "93 manual" and have found a few threads.
Just would like to ask you if there's enough fluid for the tranny?
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 06:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gianinline &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you have to turn the engine off in order to be able to shift again...</TD></TR></TABLE>
That part sounds like the clutch is dragging. A few different things can cause the clutch to NOT completely release.

Pilot bearing going bad?
Clutch disk warped?
Parts broken from hub of clutch disk wedged in pressure plate?
Air in clutch hydraulic (if it's a hydraulic clutch)?
Clutch cable stretched (if it's a cable)?
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 07:33 PM
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what i don't get is it's not constant. it sometimes shifts fine.
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 03:46 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sinister357 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what i don't get is it's not constant. it sometimes shifts fine.</TD></TR></TABLE>Loose peices running around in the pressure plate can come & go.

Another thing is a sticky spline in the clutch hub. If it hangs up, the clutch disk continues to drag on the flywheel even tho the pressure plate has pulled away. Sometimes it sticks, sometimes it doesn't.

First, rule out external stuff. Clutch cable if it's got that.

Is it a hydraulic clutch? If so, have someone pump the pedal while you watch the throw-out lever. I think it should move about 12 or 13 mm back & forth. Then have them hold the pedal down for a while. The throw-out lever should stay, it shouldn't slowly move back over several minutes.

If you can rule out the external stuff, then you have to take the tranny out. At that point it's kinda silly to do anything other than replace the clutch, PP, pilot bearing, etc...
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 04:43 PM
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Sounds like the clutch master cylinder. I think that all turning the car off and on again is doing it aligning up the gears making it able to go in to gear. (The same reason that you can shift gear when the car is off but not when it is running)
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