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Old Apr 25, 2006 | 08:48 PM
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how much heavier is an h22 engine than a d16.my next project consist on swaping just the motor to a 91 hatch ex keeping the original tranny by using a bisimoto adapter plate.because im guessing that the h22 tranny is WAY heavier than the d16.in plus i can keep my stock axles and shift linkage doing that swap.its all because there is bad rumors going around that axles on that type of swap tend to brake a lot using the h22 tranny on an ef,witch i dont even think there rumors.the mounts i ca do my self,and yes i already tried searching and i came up with a crap load of "for sale" ****.TIA guys!!!
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Old Apr 25, 2006 | 09:07 PM
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i dont have an exact number but h series is only like 30-40lbs heavier than d series
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Old Apr 25, 2006 | 09:12 PM
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r u talkin about the engine weight or the trany wight.because ive seen some side by side and the h22 trany looks humongus.but thanx a lot for awnsering plikit.
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Old Apr 25, 2006 | 09:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by charlee ricer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">r u talkin about the engine weight or the trany wight.because ive seen some side by side and the h22 trany looks humongus.but thanx a lot for awnsering plikit.</TD></TR></TABLE>

just the engine
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Old Apr 25, 2006 | 10:12 PM
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sorry for bothering you again bro.. but do you know how much more heavier id the h22 trannys than the d series. its just to know how much weight im saving
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 11:35 AM
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if your putting it ina hatch just through a b18 h22a have too much torque. even with slicks you will stil be peeling out the whole time. but its your car do what you want. in a accord or preulde h22a
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 11:37 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by charlee ricer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sorry for bothering you again bro.. but do you know how much more heavier id the h22 trannys than the d series. its just to know how much weight im saving</TD></TR></TABLE>

The H tranny is within 1lb of the hydro B tranny if that helps.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 01:05 PM
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just wondering why you wanna keep the d series tranny??? the only benefit performance-wise is that the stock d series tranny gears are slightly stronger...

im not sure how much that plate costs..but i know an h to b plate setup runs over 1000...

using a d series tranny will be a buzzkiller with a h engine in a civic...you'll have unequal length axles which contribute to torquesteer...and unless you shell out about 1000 for a quaife you'll be cruising around open diff style....

i have a h22 with a m2b4 (lsd) tranny in my 93 hatch and contrary to what most inexperienced morons say in here...the weight difference is not that large...and i can hookup well (thanks to my lsd)...sure i can crack em loose if i want to....but then again any car with decent power (or an open diff) can do that...

if you do decide to go with an h tranny youll need the prelude shifter, some cables, and go for the dss axles or something equivalent, and definately get the lsd...i used to have an open diff tranny in it and i could send that right wheel spinning at anytime

Now, if youre really trying to beast it..go for the h to b series adapter kit...find a b series lsd tranny or pick up a b series tranny and stuff a quaife in it...the engine and axles will fit better in a civic due to this kit..and you wont have to screw around with shift cables..and youll always have a cheap supply of tranny parts (vs the h series trannys)
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 01:15 PM
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arent D series trannies a LOT cheaper and more plentiful than any B series???
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 01:41 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CGags13 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just wondering why you wanna keep the d series tranny??? the only benefit performance-wise is that the stock d series tranny gears are slightly stronger...

im not sure how much that plate costs..but i know an h to b plate setup runs over 1000...

using a d series tranny will be a buzzkiller with a h engine in a civic...you'll have unequal length axles which contribute to torquesteer...and unless you shell out about 1000 for a quaife you'll be cruising around open diff style....

i have a h22 with a m2b4 (lsd) tranny in my 93 hatch and contrary to what most inexperienced morons say in here...the weight difference is not that large...and i can hookup well (thanks to my lsd)...sure i can crack em loose if i want to....but then again any car with decent power (or an open diff) can do that...

if you do decide to go with an h tranny youll need the prelude shifter, some cables, and go for the dss axles or something equivalent, and definately get the lsd...i used to have an open diff tranny in it and i could send that right wheel spinning at anytime

Now, if youre really trying to beast it..go for the h to b series adapter kit...find a b series lsd tranny or pick up a b series tranny and stuff a quaife in it...the engine and axles will fit better in a civic due to this kit..and you wont have to screw around with shift cables..and youll always have a cheap supply of tranny parts (vs the h series trannys)
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ive done only one swap when it comes to puting an h22 on to a ef chassis.i swaped the whole engine and tranny and did the whole set up exept the wiring for a friend. the reason why i said the the engine setup plus the tranny is a lot heavier is because that **** has a lot of understear.and you cant blame it on a bad engine placement because i used the hasport swap mount kit.it fits like a glove.now i got reinforced axles on that d series tranny that are capable of holding up to 500 hp from raxles. axles arent going to be a problem.now i was reading a book on what are the consequences of putting such a big engine on an ef.its bad.it has a lot of understear like i experienced with the other ef i built.the book also mentions a lot of axle breakage.that has not happen yet.but probably will soon.and the whole shift adaptage **** was not that hard but i rather go with rods.you just feel a better connection to the tanny.that is one of the many reasons i wanna try sumting different and go with a d series tranny.and in pluss if the kit is like $900.an h22 alone with ecu i can get for $2000 with no tranny and everithing included like headers mounts ect.but thanx for the help guys. i really apreciate it.
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Old Apr 30, 2006 | 03:22 PM
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the shipping co. said my H22A was 250lbs....engine only
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Old Apr 30, 2006 | 05:28 PM
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Old Apr 30, 2006 | 09:25 PM
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my h22 tranny just came via fedex, wieghing in at 63.4 pounds including the 30 gallon tuperware container it was in.
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