im gonna be getting my car painted soon, and im going to be removing my abs power steering and air conditioning at the same time and i want to do it right

with the abs is it just removing the lines and that big box thing in the engine bay, or do i need to cap somthing off or do anything else, am i gonna throw a check engine light?

power steering, so whats the best way to do this? keep the oem power, rack and remover the pump and everything and then put caps on the lines or what?

ac i no how to do

thanks for any help

 

all u need is a 40/40 prop valve from a 99-00 si and 4 steel brake lines from an rs teg thats ll

 

is there a writeup somewhere?

also is there a difference between the ABS systems in the GSR & Type-R?

 

Here is the p/s removal thread: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=184202. This should give you lots of info.

Why are you removing the ABS? Is it broken or something. The system is quite good on the ITR. I'm sure others will recommend that you leave it in.

The a/c is fairly straight forward as well. There is a thread on it. Just look around for it.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmhonda &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">all u need is a 40/40 prop valve from a 99-00 si and 4 steel brake lines from an rs teg thats ll</TD></TR></TABLE>

this is 4 the abs removal right, if so whats a prop valve and where does it go


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by white rocket &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here is the p/s removal thread: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=184202. This should give you lots of info.

Why are you removing the ABS? Is it broken or something. The system is quite good on the ITR. I'm sure others will recommend that you leave it in.

The a/c is fairly straight forward as well. There is a thread on it. Just look around for it.</TD></TR></TABLE>


thanks for the write up


also i want to remove the abs because alot of cars dont even come with it, i dont like it, i dont need it, and its ugly

 

You can also buy a breather kit from user "Padawan" to help the p/s rack breathe better so your not fighting air bubbles.

 

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this is 4 the abs removal right, if so whats a prop valve and where does it go

thanks for the write up


also i want to remove the abs because alot of cars dont even come with it, i dont like it, i dont need it, and its ugly </TD></TR></TABLE>

So basically you are taking it out strictly for looks?

 

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this is 4 the abs removal right, if so whats a prop valve and where does it go

thanks for the write up

also i want to remove the abs because alot of cars dont even come with it, i dont like it, i dont need it, and its ugly </TD></TR></TABLE>

WOW! I'm not about to help you disable one of the best designed ABS safety systems ever invented because it's UGLY

You really need to consider buying a different car & letting someone who appreciates the R enjoy it....OPIE - WHERE ARE YOU???

 

If you want to ditch your abs, will you sell it? lines, harness, controller, everything? I want to install in my car... The ITR abs is supposed to be awesome... PM Me a price...

For the steering rack, 95 and down civic CX and some DX's had manual steering racks. I have one in my 94 DX Coupe... I like the manual steering on the highway, but it Sucks when parking and at slow speeds...

 

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with the abs is it just removing the lines and that big box thing in the engine bay, or do i need to cap somthing off or do anything else, am i gonna throw a check engine light?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Asking the questions that you're asking I really dont think you should be allowed to touch the braking system on any car, let alone a very well designed peice of electronic braking assistance... Do a search, plenty of others have been dumb enough to gut systems that make the ITR perform as well as it does. Why not ditch the wing all the extra bracing, they're ugly too and you can save .notgoingtomatteranyway ammount of lbs.

 

I can't stress enough about NOT removing the ABS. It works great on the ITR. The ONLY reason someone should remove it is if it's broken and would take many $$$ to fix.

 

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WOW! I'm not about to help you disable one of the best designed ABS safety systems ever invented because it's UGLY

You really need to consider buying a different car & letting someone who appreciates the R enjoy it....OPIE - WHERE ARE YOU???</TD></TR></TABLE>

Also to mention the value of the car takes a nose dive. If you decide to sell it for what ever reason you just knocked out a huge percent of potential buyers furthermore raise the skeptisism of the car. What I mean by skeptisism, I mean if the car is a theft recovery or have been in an accident. I don't know but thats just me I guess.

In my honest opinion just leave it alone. The car will be worth more later on in the future, unless your intention is to make a full on race car and compete seriously in a race event. I don't know but thats just me. To each his own

 

i understand why that guy wants the abs pump out.. haha.. i sold a jdm converted 95 gsr just because i hated lookin at that pump under my hood... as for the 98 and up abs pump.. they look perfect.. not as big and bulky as the older one.. plus the jdm hid lights wont fit smoothly (or at all) with the big abs pump

is there a way to upgrade form 94-97 to 98-01 abs pumps?

If so, i think that would be a smarter choice...

edit: if you already have the 98 and up abs pump... ya.. i think that would be dumb messin with that

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ninetail &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i understand why that guy wants the abs pump out.. haha.. i sold a jdm converted 95 gsr just because i hated lookin at that pump under my hood... as for the 98 and up abs pump.. they look perfect.. not as big and bulky as the older one.. plus the jdm hid lights wont fit smoothly (or at all) with the big abs pump

is there a way to upgrade form 94-97 to 98-01 abs pumps?

If so, i think that would be a smarter choice...

edit: if you already have the 98 and up abs pump... ya.. i think that would be dumb messin with that </TD></TR></TABLE>

All ITR's came with the smaller abs module.

 

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All ITR's came with the smaller abs module.</TD></TR></TABLE> you dont say...

::walks away from the conversation::

lol.. i didnt know that.. cool ...

i also noticed... some with out it.. do all itr's come with it.. or some special cases..?

 

Who gives a **** what it looks like, it's a ******* ABS pump? Even beyond doing it for appearance sake, ITR ABS is phenominal. I can't imagine anyone on this board (or very few people at least) could brake as effectively with a non-ABS unit.

 

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All ITR's came with the smaller abs module.</TD></TR></TABLE>

oh really swan?

 

Excuse me, All USDM ITR's came with the smaller abs.............smartass

 

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oh really swan?

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Yes - they shaved something like 12lbs from the old GSR ABS system for the US market. One can only guess for the other countries what changes happened or didn't happen - which is depicted in the picture.

I'm just curious, since you are trying to make a point, the picture is a silver car...there's no proof the picture is a type R other than it is possible since it's a right-hand drive so we're dealing with another country (see note above).

 

Good point Jeff, it could not be an ITR, it is missing the strut tower bar, but it is also a RHD car.

 

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heh...

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Yes - they shaved something like 12lbs from the old GSR ABS system for the US market. One can only guess for the other countries what changes happened or didn't happen - which is depicted in the picture.

I'm just curious, since you are trying to make a point, the picture is a silver car...there's no proof the picture is a type R other than it is possible since it's a right-hand drive so we're dealing with another country (see note above).</TD></TR></TABLE>

the car in the picture is my 97 JDM DB8 ITR.

so 97 USDM GS-R's came with the old style ABS modulator, but 97 USDM ITR's came with the newer style (that was on all 98-01 Integras)?

 

"migs" has a writeup on ABS removal

 

If you do decide to remove the ABS those hardlines are one of the hardest jobs to replace if you do need to replace them - which I think you possible will. You will have to drop the tank, and front crossmember. PITA. I have just replaced my corroded lines and it will take you a good 12 hours.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BenMasters2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you do decide to remove the ABS those hardlines are one of the hardest jobs to replace if you do need to replace them - which I think you possible will. You will have to drop the tank, and front crossmember. PITA. I have just replaced my corroded lines and it will take you a good 12 hours.

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the rear lines do not need to be removed.


Modified by skunked at 3:43 PM 4/26/2006

 

Two words: Watch Out. It's not a racecar, it's a street car. If you don't know how to slow a car down in the rain without abs and there's a situation where you need to stop fast, make sure you know how to modulate the brakes!