just seeing if anyone's done it yet... and if its worth getting. thanks.

 

no hondata for s2000..

 

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stock vs stock with reflash:

 

i don't think that's a reflash for the s2000 bro. wrong charts... looks like whp from a b-series

 

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sorry it is. please check hondata.com if theres anymore doubts. i guess from the response im getting no one has it just yet.

http://www.hondata.com/reflash_s2k_06.html

VTEC point decreased from 6000 rpm to 5600 rpm
Rev limit 8500 rpm
Maximum torque gain 14 ft/lbs torque at 5800 rpm
Maximum power gain 16 hp at 5800 rpm
Fully dealer compatible - works with all Honda scan tools and equipment

 

humm only for the 06.. interesting... but i would pass.... it's going to limit you either way.... one with stock motor and maybe an intake and exhuast.. and the other with a toda header..... thats quite limiting on other possible mods you can do with the car....

 

i don't have an 06 ecu so i wouldn't know what to do with it. good find though. try it out... 600 bucks ain't bad for that amt of power.

 

yeah but redline at 8500 rpms on an ap2.. is going to decrease the reliability......

 

I wouldn't unless i had a secured valvetrain to cover my ying yang.

 

i second.

 

interesting that the dyno pull was done in second gear. I guess that's one way to "cheat" raise the dyno number.

Let me see a 4th gear pull. Of course I also wonder why the numbers are soooooo low.

 

This is what you guys get into when I'm gone?

imola: That Hondata reflash will only work with 06 models. 04-05 AP2s are screwed. Still, as with any reflash, good supporting mods are the key to making more power. The idea is to tune ignition/fuel to match your mods. I doubt that you could make 16whp on a reflash alone.

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Honda secret testing: The F20 has been taken to 10k rpms as part of reliability tests and fared just fine. The F22 was tested to 8800 rpms. Your suspicions are unfounded.

 

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Let me see a 4th gear pull. Of course I also wonder why the numbers are soooooo low.</TD></TR></TABLE>

that's why i thought it was for the b-series.

 

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Let me see a 4th gear pull. Of course I also wonder why the numbers are soooooo low.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Torque numbers would be pretty high if it was a 2nd gear pull.

 

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AP1... It can go to 10200rpm's. Once you hit 10201rpm's, it kinda goes kaboom. That info is from honda.

AP2...I will try looking up

 

I rounded it off. 200rpm of room-for-error. The 8800 number is good.

 

look at the mph on the dyno sheet. It says 69. I stand firm with second gear pull.

 

correction. I just realized that the dyno sheet had pointers and that the reflected mph and rpm was where the pointer was placed.

also if you actually look at it you are only gaining in one specific rpm band. Which isn't bad but you are not gaining 14 hp across the board or up top. Up top you gain virtually nothing.




Modified by badboypolar2 at 11:20 AM 4/25/2006

 

Good catch.

My AP2 put down 214/151. A 2nd gear pull would only take you to about 56-57 mph at 8k. even at 8500 it will barely touch 60.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by badboypolar2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">also if you actually look at it you are only gaining in one specific rpm band. Which isn't bad but you are not gaining 14 hp across the board or up top. Up top you gain virtually nothing.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's also a narrow range for that gain. They picked a specific spot, right at VTEC crossover. There goes the "smooth transition" that everyone raves about.

 

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Honda secret testing: The F20 has been taken to 10k rpms as part of reliability tests and fared just fine. The F22 was tested to 8800 rpms. Your suspicions are unfounded.
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but does that mean i can take set my redline and take it up there on a daily bases and still the motor reliable? question is, did honda just mash on it at 8800rpm or was it a one time run to see what the motor can handle?

 

I'm talking reliability testing, repeatedly taking the motor to that point under load and back.

 

Runs were done in 4th gear accelerating the engine at 500 rpm/second as is our standard test proceedure.

In reality the gear chosen is irrelevant as long as you can achieve consistancy. Stock is tuned very well from the factory. So we added some Toda headers and retested.

 

there you go

 

so whats the reason you are able to reflash the 06 ecu and not the earlier models?