So my EG is dropped on Skunk2 sleeves all around, stock shocks up front and Koni Yellows in the rear. Looks to have an Si rear left LCA, and a stock rear right LCA.
Now then... my car is just way to ****** low for my driveway. Car is sitting on 14" del sol wheels, and the car is dropped.


The alignment is definately all fucked up because i can feel it going around turns and on the highway. Toe, camber and whatever else are totally off.

This is my plan of action... let me know what you guys think.

Ground Control/Koni Yellow combo - 450 Front / 550 Rear
Ground Control Upper Mounts
USDM ITR Front LCA's
USDM ITR Rear LCA's
Password JDM Front 3-pt. strut bar
Password JDM Rear 2-pt. strut bar
ASR Rear Sub-frame Reinforment Brace
JDM ITR 23mm rear sway bar
USDM ITR 24mm front sway bar
SPC Adjustable Upper Ball Joint
SPC EZ Arms XR Rear Camber Control Arms
15x7 wheels
205/50R15 Falen Azenis RT-615's

**Prothane Total Kit - Full Suspension Bushing Kit**
**OEM Rear LCA Bushings**
**Should these be done before or after?**

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UPDATED SETUP
<U>Stage 1</U>
GC/Koni Combo - 450 Front/400 Rear ORDERED 4/26/06 || Koni's RECIEVED 5/2/2006
GC Upper Mounts ORDERED
GC Soft, Progressive 10-14mm Foam Bump Stops ORDERED
'99 GSR Front LCA's ORDERED 4/27/06 || RECIEVED 5/2/2006
Function 7 Rear LCA's ORDERED 4/29/06 || RECIEVED 5/3/2006
Rota J.SPL 15x6.5 Wheels ORDERED 4/28/06
Falken Azenis RT-615 205/50R15 ORDERED 4/27/06 || RECIEVED 5/2/2006
Prothane Total Bushing Kit ORDERED 4/26/06
Honda OEM Rear Trailing Arm Bushing

<U>Stage 2</U>
Function 7 Rear Endlinks
ASR Rear Reinforcement Brace Kit Purchased USED 5/5/2006
USDM ITR 24mm Front Sway Bar Purchased USED 5/5/2006
Mugen 26mm Rear Sway Bar Purchased USED 5/5/2006
Prothane Sway Bar Bushings Front & Rear
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What do you guys think of this setup? I want the drop on the car to be like a finger and a half gap from fender to tire.

This car is going to be a daily driver, but i want it to handle awesome. I will be using it for drag/auto-x/road racing, in no particular order. I am very excited about NJ Motorsports Park, and i definately want to hit that up.

Any and all criticism, opinions, advice is welcome!

-Jalal


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Could a mod fix the title and remove the Re: part. I have no idea how it got there.
Thanks!

-Jalal

 

I think it looks ok.But i think getting an alignment would help a ton without any of that stuff. But sounds like your on the right track. Can't go wrong with koni.


Modified by jaydmcrx at 1:32 PM 4/25/2006

 

go with either skunk or omni power front upper arms for you camber adjustments, much better pieces then the SPC ball joints. When the SPC ball joints are installed, you end up with about an extra 3/4" on top of your control arm that interferes with the fender well at low rideheights, and your **** is low!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mikeski38 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">go with either skunk or omni power front upper arms for you camber adjustments, much better pieces then the SPC ball joints. When the SPC ball joints are installed, you end up with about an extra 3/4" on top of your control arm that interferes with the fender well at low rideheights, and your **** is low!</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks.
I do not have any intentions of keeping the car that low at all. I am going to put larger wheels on and raise it.
Thanks!
I am going to move this to the suspension forum.
-Jalal

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MJ23FE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Ground Control/Koni Yellow combo - 450 Front / 550 Rear
Ground Control Upper Mounts
USDM ITR Front LCA's
USDM ITR Rear LCA's
Password JDM Front 3-pt. strut bar
Password JDM Rear 2-pt. strut bar
ASR Rear Sub-frame Reinforment Brace
JDM ITR 23mm rear sway bar
USDM ITR 24mm front sway bar
SPC Adjustable Upper Ball Joint
SPC EZ Arms XR Rear Camber Control Arms
15x7 wheels
205/50R15 Falen Azenis RT-615's

**Prothane Total Kit - Full Suspension Bushing Kit**
**OEM Rear LCA Bushings**
**Should these be done before or after?**</TD></TR></TABLE>

GC Upper mounts are only necissary if your going to be lower than about 2" (and only the front really). You sound like you don't want the car as low as it already is, so I recomend you don't waste your money.

ITR front LCAs are the same as any other Integra or Civic that came with a front sway-bar (except 99-00 Si).

ITR rear LCAs require ITR rear shocks. Not really worth buying new shocks if you already have Koni yellows in the rear. I recomend regular Integra LCAs that have the sway-bar mounting hole.

For the rear ITR sway-bar, I suggest you just get the complete 22mm sway-bar kit from ASR. It comes with everyhting you need, and you don't have to worry about finding all the other stupid parts at the dealership or whatever. That 1mm wont' make much difference...

The ITR front sway-bar is the exact same as the GSR one. It just makes it easier to find If you don't specify that you want the ITR one.

I recomend you don't buy camber kits. We all know why, so I won't even start that debate here...

Poly bushings are a pain in the *** to install. I wouldn't waste my time with them. Replace any worn/cracked/torn rubber bushings with new OEM or hard Mugen rubber. Also make sure to reset all your bushings for your new ride height, and follow that up with an alignment to zero out your toe settings (that do change with ride height).

Strut tower bars are not worth the rediculous price you will pay for them. The 3 point thing is pointless because the firewall is as flexy as a dish rag. Have you ever noticed people install master cylinder braces to keep the wall from flexing due to brake FOOT pressure. Not to sturdy IMO. It's $300+ thats better spent elsewhere..

 

Thanks man. I appreciate the insight.

Does anyone else have any opinions???

All help is greatly appreciated.

-Jalal

 

94eg pretty much summed up everything worth saying, what else are you expecting to hear?

 

UPDATED SETUP
<U>Stage 1</U>
GC/Koni Combo - 450 Front/400 Rear ORDERED 4/26/06 || Koni's RECIEVED 5/2/2006
GC Upper Mounts
GC Soft, Progressive 10-14mm Foam Bump Stops
'99 GSR Front LCA's ORDERED 4/27/06 || RECIEVED 5/2/2006
Function 7 Rear LCA's ORDERED 4/29/06 || RECIEVED 5/3/2006
Rota J.SPL 15x6.5 Wheels ORDERED 4/28/06
Falken Azenis RT-615 205/50R15 ORDERED 4/27/06 || RECIEVED 5/2/2006
Prothane Total Bushing Kit ORDERED 4/26/06
Honda OEM Rear Trailing Arm Bushing

People have told me that using the GC Upper Mounts are not necessary if your car is not dropped more than 2". Using the GC upper mount will make installation a lot easier, and i'll also be upgrading a 13 year old OEM upper mount in process. I feel it'll be worth it.

As i learn the wants/don't wants of my car, Stage 2 will commence.

<U>Stage 2</U>
Function 7 Endlinks Front & Rear
ASR Rear Reinforcement Brace Kit
Front Sway Bar Size TBD
Rear Sway Bar Size TBD
Prothane Sway Bar Bushings Front & Rear

Pics of what i have recieved so far...



Thats it for now... hopefully i get some more stuff in this week.

Whats an average price for a suspension bushing install??? So far people have give me prices between $400-$500

-Jalal

 

This set-up is very similair to mine.

 

Do you mind taking a picture of one Falken RT616 on the ground and put a tape measure next to it. I'm curious how wide they compare to Falken RT215.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Understeer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do you mind taking a picture of one Falken RT616 on the ground and put a tape measure next to it. I'm curious how wide they compare to Falken RT215.</TD></TR></TABLE>
http://www.falkentire.com/615micro.htm
They have the tread width listed at 7.6".
-Jalal

 

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I recomend you don't buy camber kits. We all know why, so I won't even start that debate here...
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looks like he is setting the car up for auto-x or track use. camber kits can be used for purposes other than correcting negative camber.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 743power &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

looks like he is setting the car up for auto-x or track use. camber kits can be used for purposes other than correcting negative camber.</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you ever buy some race rubber you will need the camber kits to ADD negative camber. Most race rubber likes a lot of negative camber.

 

I just got a good deal on:

USDM ITR 24mm Front Sway Bar
Mugen 26mm Rear Sway Bar
ASR Rear Brace

I purchased them last night.

-Jalal

 

You really want to stiffen that bad boy up you would put a 6 point or more cage in it.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1337 Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You really want to stiffen that bad boy up you would put a 6 point or more cage in it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
In a daily driver in New Jersey???
I dont know about that.
-Jalal

 

wow, nice suspension purchases, in for the review

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MJ23FE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">In a daily driver in New Jersey???
I dont know about that.
-Jalal</TD></TR></TABLE>

What I did.

 

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You live in New Jersey???
Your info said Missouri.
-Jalal

 

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You live in New Jersey???
Your info said Missouri.
-Jalal

 

Did I say Jersey? Said I caged my daily.

 

You have a melon crusher in your daily? I have toyed with the idea, but I don't want to wipe out my skull.