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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 10:31 AM
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I recently sold my gas guzzling tahoe on 22's (yesterday) and being the thrifty, money saver that i am, i would like to go ahead and force induce my 88 rex si. I am wondering if i should go turbo or supercharged. and where is the best place to get it.
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 10:39 AM
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Turbo has a lot of options but alot of hardware....But my vote is built that crx and then turbo it.
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 10:50 AM
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both will be fun.
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 10:52 AM
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another question i was looking at the vortech kit, is it compatible with obd0 b16a
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 10:53 AM
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and how much should i expect to pay for a good turbo kit with no pillaging?
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 10:57 AM
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I'd turbo it, I can build you a kit, but at the same time, so can alot of other people. The setup really depends on what type of power and how much power you want to make. If you are wanting a good all around kit I't get the Greddy kit...not new.
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 11:24 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by beerex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">another question i was looking at the vortech kit, is it compatible with obd0 b16a</TD></TR></TABLE>

Its made to run off the powersteering on the B16a2 99-00civic si..So it wont work without some modifications..
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 11:27 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr.speaker &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Its made to run off the powersteering on the B16a2 99-00civic si..So it wont work without some modifications..
</TD></TR></TABLE> i was leaning away from the pricetag anyway 4300 is a bit too much to spend spend to start learning forced induction
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 11:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Autoworks &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'd turbo it, I can build you a kit, but at the same time, so can alot of other people. The setup really depends on what type of power and how much power you want to make. If you are wanting a good all around kit I't get the Greddy kit...not new.</TD></TR></TABLE> I was looking to make approximately 180-200 hp at first but i also want to be able to one day build motor to support 15-18 lbs
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 11:32 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by beerex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I was looking to make approximately 180-200 hp at first but i also want to be able to one day build motor to support 15-18 lbs</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats it.??? B16 can handle +350whp with a good tune easy and last..Just the other day I saw in the F/I forum a Stock internal B16a that made 550whp..That particular engine probably isnt going to last long if he's always pushing that power,,but they're strong engines..

A good turbo for those engines seems to be a t3/t4b or e turbo..Its going to be a bit laggy with the 1.6L engine,,but you need a medium-large turbo because of the head flow ,,and the high revving..Other wise if you get some small turbo you'll be making peak power with the turbo at the wrong rpm that motor actually makes peak power and you'll notice the turbo dying up top..
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 11:34 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by beerex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I was looking to make approximately 180-200 hp at first but i also want to be able to one day build motor to support 15-18 lbs</TD></TR></TABLE>
If that's all you want I wouldn't do either. You can make that N/Apretty quickly w/ headwork for less than that you'd have in a turbo.
But at the same time you can make closer to the 200 mark with a straight T3 on 5 or 6psi
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 11:39 AM
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well how much is too much for an upgradable intercooled turbo kit
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 11:43 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by beerex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well how much is too much for an upgradable intercooled turbo kit</TD></TR></TABLE>

That really depends on what brand we're talking about..

If I were you I would piece together my own turbokit to have it exactly for you and how you want it,,Not to mention you can probably get a more complete turbo kit with good fuel management for less then those put together kits..Or if you can find a used turbokit like autoworks..then add whatever you need later
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 11:46 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr.speaker &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

That really depends on brand we're talking about..

</TD></TR></TABLE> never turboed anything before, this will be another learning experience. don't know good yet. need experienced help
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 11:54 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by beerex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well how much is too much for an upgradable intercooled turbo kit</TD></TR></TABLE>
Depends on the brands and your pocket. First make I price range that you want to stay in.Upgrades are the cheaper parts. The bigest cost in a kit is the turbo & manifold. I've sold both DRAG and Greddy, both are decent kits, DRAG IMO being overrated because your paying for the bling bling piping (that you can make for under $100) If you bought a brand new Garret turbo, brand new Log mani, and a Brand new Tial WG, you'd have roughly $1200 spent. You could add the oil feed, oil return, DSM injectors, turboedit, FMIC, couplers (buy it buy the foot-Gates-) oil pan gasket, DP and still be under $1900...and thats a high #. That is a similar kit I put together for a B18C recently. On the other hand, I'm doing another DOHC ZC for a guy that supplied his own turbo (that probably cost $100), using an FMU and he will have maybe $800 in the kit...before labor of coarse.
Look for a used Greddy kit, the turbos usually hold up good for a very long time, that's if your looking for a ready to bolt on deal. (but it won't bolt right on due to the piping which is minor)
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 11:56 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr.speaker &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

That really depends on what brand we're talking about..

If I were you I would piece together my own turbokit to have it exactly for you and how you want it,,Not to mention you can probably get a more complete turbo kit with good fuel management for less then those put together kits..Or if you can find a used turbokit like autoworks..then add whatever you need later</TD></TR></TABLE>
Exactly...except for everything that came with my kit got ditched, all I kept was the turbo.
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 12:17 PM
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so around 2000-2300 i could be turboed to death
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 12:18 PM
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i want to run high 7's btw thats 1/8th mile
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 12:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by beerex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so around 2000-2300 i could be turboed to death</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes...basically. Just saw that you live in south GA, I can turbo it for you if you want.
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 12:22 PM
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I would rather do the wrenching myself to learn, could be costly learning but i would rather be broke and smarter. just trying to not get raped for a kit
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 12:23 PM
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btw how far away
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 12:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by beerex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would rather do the wrenching myself to learn, could be costly learning but i would rather be broke and smarter. </TD></TR></TABLE>
go for it, research before you buy and if possible do not get sucked in by the tempting SSAC kits.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by beerex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">btw how far away</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 12:31 PM
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do not get sucked in by the tempting SSAC kits.</TD></TR></TABLE> never that, I was looking at the turbo specialties exterme kit with t25 bb turbo but curious cause everyone i have spoken to, was using t3/t4. this company is using t20, t25, and t28. not familiar to me at all, please enlighten me with your infinite knowledge. and thanks for all the help thus far. you guys kick ***
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 12:33 PM
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Montgomery</TD></TR></TABLE> just done work ata sawmill in montgomery 1 month ago
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