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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 04:28 PM
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I'm in the middle of getting the 5spd tranny in my 88 Civic. Seeing if you guys got any tips. no tranny jack so just using a regular floor jack to raise it. Its just a regular sohc (d-series) motor. everything stock!!


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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 04:31 PM
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you shouldint have any problems i did mine and i didint even have a jack for the tranny i just picked it up and slid it in there

i would have someone holding the top for you though just incase but if you have a jack you should be fine
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 04:57 PM
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I've done this once before and it went on smooth. But this one is a big *** pain. It does not want to go in. And yes its the right clutch/input shaft. Everything is corret it just wont go in!!!
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 04:58 PM
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did you use the alignment tool or are you eyeballing it ?
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 04:59 PM
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Realign your clutch. That's always the problem people run in to. I tried one of those plastic tools and it sucked. It should go right in without much pushing. I ended up using an actual input shaft from a spare tranny to get it aligned.
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 05:34 PM
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just got done checking if it was aligned
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 05:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by YasRex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Realign your clutch. </TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 05:45 PM
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yup doing it now. it felt very slightly off so figured might as well give it a try
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 05:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtecn8ive &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yup doing it now. it felt very slightly off so figured might as well give it a try </TD></TR></TABLE>


When you're done you will smack yourself in the face for trying soo hard to force it in when all you had to do was get the alignment right.
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 08:12 PM
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Checked it realigned. Got it nicely in there (the alignment tool) doubled checked after tightening that it was aligned. Tried to put the tranny on again!!! NO LUCK. it goes in but is hitting the pilot bearing or at least I think so. Its pissing me of big time. haha I was grunting over it for 2 hours of lifting a tranny and trying to put it in place!! Not fun... good work out.. but not fun!!

I'm waiting till tomorrow to finish it up to damn frustrated. And just a little fyi I have put many trannies on and never came across one this stubbern

-shane
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 09:40 AM
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Bump. Getting ready to tear into it again right now. F*cking arms are killing. Man i'm hardcore hopefully better results today.

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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 09:56 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtecn8ive &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Man i'm hardcore</TD></TR></TABLE>
OH NO YOUR NOT HARDCORE (no your not hardcore)
LOL Im sorry I had to
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 10:07 AM
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I always pull the motor and tranny together and change the tranny on the floor, SOOO much easier.

If you have a helper, put a 17mm on the crank pully and turn it back and forth so the splines will line up while you are trying to push the tranny in.
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 10:12 AM
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the last time i did a tranny swap I promised myself I would always pull the motor and put it on... i freaking lied to myself.

oh well time to get to work.

I'm so hardcore its like I am the gangster. You know how people want to be gangster. Well I'm that guy that everyone wants to be. HAHAHA.
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 10:18 AM
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the last time i pulled my tranny i bought an alignment tool from the autoparts store and had the same problem so i used a 3/8 drive 10mm deep well socket with a little electrical tape around the base of the socket and i still use that
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 10:19 AM
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i can maybe take a picture of it for any more help
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 10:49 AM
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haha you know I think I know exactly what you mean cuz i actually used a 10mm to see if it lined up right. What I ended up doing is cuttign the tip of the alignment tool (well used a dremel) and measured it with the 10mm tip. just got done aligning looks good. I also remembered the easier way to install the tranny willl explain more when I'm done. stopped in to get some water.

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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 11:09 AM
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motor is coming out. the f*cking thing won't line up at all.
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 11:25 AM
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did you install a new clutch or what was the nature of pulling the tranny
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 11:25 AM
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what changed is why i am asking
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 11:37 AM
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Just for the record 88 Trannies have a different spline count than 89-2000. So if you're swapping in a tranny from a different year you would need the clutch disc and flywheel from the newer tranny as well.

Hope this helps
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 11:48 AM
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I am fully aware of the differences in clutches. I was running a 86 integra flywheel, clutch, pressure plate. They have the same spline count as 88 Civic, but bigger.

I installed the 86 integra flywheel with no pilot bearing cuz I looked through the factory manual, called parts store looked on the crank (d16a1) and input shaft of the tranny and there was no pilot bearing to be found. So I decided to run mine without it.

Well then I got responses that I will ruin my input shaft bearing so I decided to use my 88 Civic flywheel which is identical to the integra except the back is different. still mounts fine.


An so now I am pulling the motor cuz the nothing wants to line up. hopefully be able to diagnose what is going on better to.

Alright thanks guys.
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 01:23 PM
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The only thing it can be is alignment. Those tools suck thats why so many people use actual input shafts to align their clutch installs.
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 06:59 PM
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yeah i think it was. when i took the motor out i aligned it to perfection. then went to put the tranny on still no good. Kept on for about 5 minutes and finally!!! it went on. Put the motor back in and started it up. purs nicely. Cant wait to put my exhaust on so I can test drive it.


Thanks for the help guys. And yes an input shaft does seem like a really good idea.
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