Just curious about your thoughts on this new car for AutoX. I'm assuming it'll be in HS as it's not exactly fast. It does handle well though. Will it have a chance at winning on a regional or possibly a national level?

 

its slow as crap, and i don't think the suspension is that good at all.

 

as part of my dealerships introducton to the fit we got to do a sort of watered down autoX in it and all the other "sub compact" cars. the fit outperformed all of them, even the yaris by a fair margin. i was pleasently supprised, altho it is by no means a fast car

 

yeah I agree for it's class it is a awesome little car. WHat is it classed in in Autox?

 

I was wondering how well the Fit would do as well. I read the comparison car and driver did and the Fit spanked the others in the handling course. It also ran a 16.4 sec 1/4 mile which is not fast by todays terms, but that is faster than what the EF Civic Si's ran stock. Actually it is exactly what the EF CRX Si's ran stock. My big concern is how tall it is. Seems like it would have a very high CG.

 

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Especially since you are sitting on top of the gas tank. SCC compared the seating position to that of a minivan.

 

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Especially since you are sitting on top of the gas tank. SCC compared the seating position to that of a minivan. </TD></TR></TABLE>


i think because the gas tank is near the center of the vehicle the CG is much better than if the tank is at the rear of the car. BUT Spoon moved their fuel cell to the rear so idk...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Crosser &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was wondering how well the Fit would do as well. I read the comparison car and driver did and the Fit spanked the others in the handling course. It also ran a 16.4 sec 1/4 mile which is not fast by todays terms, but that is faster than what the EF Civic Si's ran stock. Actually it is exactly what the EF CRX Si's ran stock. My big concern is how tall it is. Seems like it would have a very high CG. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I too read the Car and Driver review. Here's a PDF link for anyone else who might be interested... http://automobiles.honda.com/i...t.pdf

Can someone tell me what the "lane change" test is? The Fit did it in 71.4 mph...destroying all the other cars in the test. Is it the new slalom that mags are using to test cars with? Car and Driver says that it was faster than a Z06 in that test??

 

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I too read the Car and Driver review. Here's a PDF link for anyone else who might be interested... http://automobiles.honda.com/i...t.pdf

Can someone tell me what the "lane change" test is? The Fit did it in 71.4 mph...destroying all the other cars in the test. Is it the new slalom that mags are using to test cars with? Car and Driver says that it was faster than a Z06 in that test?? </TD></TR></TABLE>

I have that car and driver issue. I reread that part a couple times and thought how the hell the fit pulled that off. If it is true, then it handles really well in stock form.

Yesterday, I had a chat with a forum member about his test drive of the Fit. He said the biggest thing he noticed was the suspension. Most cars like civics and accord when going over bumps move a lil (like up and down, can't think of the right word). The fit however felt very stiff. He said the he got the same feeling going over the bumps as he does in his S2K. He said the handling is no where near the S but just got the same feeling going over bumps. So my guess the fit has stiffer shocks/springs than a typical honda (civics, accords, etc...)

 

A lane change is similar to a chicane.

What is the width of the Fit? That could have a big influence on this type offset. It would also be good for autocrossing. If the fuel tank is under the passenger seats that could have a big impact on the CG. I have to wonder though with R compounds how would the car react? Would if tend to tip?

So based on the C and D article, it is very good transitionally, but how is it steady state?

The other question is were these tested the Sport Fit or the standard? Seems like the only real difference is wheel size. The other differences are just options that just add weight as far as I can tell from the honda web site.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Crosser &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A lane change is similar to a chicane.

I have to wonder though with R compounds how would the car react? Would if tend to tip?

So based on the C and D article, it is very good transitionally, but how is it steady state?

The other question is were these tested the Sport Fit or the standard? Seems like the only real difference is wheel size. The other differences are just options that just add weight as far as I can tell from the honda web site.

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Thanks for the clarification. I've only heard of this test recently as I haven't been following car mag tests lately. I didn't know if this was a new test they've been using or what.

I don't think this car would tip. It really feels planted when cornering. I was very suprised when I test drove one yesterday. The handling is quite good. The C&D skidpad test numbers weren't that great, but I'd blame that on the all season Dunlops.

The Fit Standard and Sport are practically the same except for steel 14's with hubcaps and 15x6's. The Sport adds a few more options like sideskirts, front lip, foglights, color matched moldings, etc. Not that much different.

 

cruise, keyless entry, upgraded stereo, MP3 jack

 

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Yeah, looking at all the additions the "sport" added, I would be interesed to see if it would not be better to just have the standard. I would have to think the sport adds quite a bit of weight to th car. Besides, the standard is about $2k less.

It would be interesting to see if the 225 Hoosiers would fit like they do on the Early CRX's and EF civics.

 

When I dug a little further in the Honda site, the weight of the std is listed at 2431 and the sport is 2471. Not as much difference as I would have thought. I wish they listed the width of the wheels.

 

I test drove a Sport the other day. The wheels are 15x6.

 

I am oddly impressed with this car.... would be a great stuff hauler, daily driver that would be amazingly reliable...

 

the fit has an awesome chasis to start with the weight placed low and to the middle where possible, it's also highly reinforced. It's obviuos Honda has a long and sporty future in mind for the chasis at least.

 

Bumping an old thread now that the Fits have been out for awhile. Has anyone AutoX'd one yet?

 

Someone in the Fit forum did.. Maybe it was a track again, AJ racing or something like that..

 

I don't see it winning any Regional or National HS trophies anytime soon. It should be a fun car to try locally, but it's outclassed by the Mini Cooper, the 89-91 Civic Si, the 99-00 Civic Si, Ford Focus, Mazda Protege, among others in HS.

Andrew

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr. Nishant &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have that car and driver issue. I reread that part a couple times and thought how the hell the fit pulled that off. If it is true, then it handles really well in stock form.

Yesterday, I had a chat with a forum member about his test drive of the Fit. He said the biggest thing he noticed was the suspension. Most cars like civics and accord when going over bumps move a lil (like up and down, can't think of the right word). The fit however felt very stiff. He said the he got the same feeling going over the bumps as he does in his S2K. He said the handling is no where near the S but just got the same feeling going over bumps. So my guess the fit has stiffer shocks/springs than a typical honda (civics, accords, etc...)</TD></TR></TABLE>

This probably has a lot to do with the Fit being a very light car, necessitating the use of stiffer suspension to deal with situations where the car is carrying a heavy load (4 passengers and luggage or something), as lighter cars are more affected by increases in load. With a lighter car the sprung/unsprung mass ratio is usually lower as well, making for a rougher ride. Together this may make the Fit feel "stiffer" than a heavier platform.

 

In my test drive, I found the rebound to be very quick. I liked it a lot.

AJ racing said his fit (with lots of suspension goodies, and wide wheels) was able to keep up on a flat track with other s2ks. Obviously, on the straights, it was blown away.

Im still having a lot of trouble finding a damn silver/sport/manuel fit. When i do find the car, they want 1000 over msrp, or make me pay for accessories I dont want. Demand is high, so the dealers are taking advantage of it.

Honda needs to ship the cars from japan faster. It makes me almost want to buy another kind of car.


Modified by carbnjunkie at 2:41 PM 8/1/2006

 

I wonder how much better the Fit Sport 5AT is over the the manual transmission. vtec.net's review said that the manual's gear ratios weren't that great and that the 5AT was a better choice.

 

The actual 0-60 time on the paddle shifters is 1 second slower than the manuel (or 1.1, in that range) 0-60.

I believe it was a car and driver test. The paddle shifters are fun tho, and very responsive.

 

Has anyone raced this car? Are there any roll cages built yet?
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1695609
Most pics. I've seen are with engine swaps and for street.