hey i havean 05 s2k and know honda makes 3.0 and 3.5 v8s for IRL racingwith around 600hp, but i cant find these engines anywhere. if i could i would like to do an engine swap and make the s a project car.

does anyone have a clue how to get a hold of these engines?

that sucks if they are all destroyed,

with size restraints a 3.0 liter honda v8 pushing 600hp would be the best path and leaves a lot of avenues open to explore. u dont have a bulky chevy engine forcing the s to handle like a chevy nova. it would be the ultimate honda project car in my opinion showcasing hondas potential, instead of stooping to a 6 or 7 liter engine to push out 100-200 more horsepower like the inferior american engine makers.

thanksfor the opinions tho guys and keep your heads up for me, cause ive been trying to make this happen for a couple monthes but just no luck finding the engine.


Modified by mykcuz at 1:23 PM 4/19/2006

 

I don't know about those Honda V8's, but if you're going to do a swap, just get a LS6 or LS7. I guarantee they'll be cheaper than a Honda racing engine.

Another mini-rant - 99.9% of these "which turbo" "which swap" etc posts never happen. Do people even know how much it takes to do a V8 swap or a turbo setup?

 

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ive seen a small block chevy in an s2000 before. i personally think its a waste of time, you will really be unbalancing the car.

 

thats the point of a 3 liter honda engine, keep up u guys, y would i put a chevy block into a honda thats would negate the point of the project car.

i dont just want an inferior engine into a superior bod, but the help i need is people who know how to get this engine they have to be around

 

Most if not all of the Honda or Mugen race engines are all leased to the race teams. The teams must return the engine upon finishing or damage for Honda to inspect the engine. I think they melt them down afterwards.

 

You're gonna do what?

Pick up an IRL motor first. Once you show proof that you have it, I'd help you with everything I got. Seriously.

 

ligenfelter LS2 just made 600 whp..

 

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i dont just want an inferior engine into a superior bod, but the help i need is people who know how to get this engine they have to be around</TD></TR></TABLE>

I would hardly call an LS6 or LS7 an inferior motor...

 

not even worth your troubles...

 

I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure you can only lease the (Honda/Mugen) V8 race motors. You must give it back1. when it failes, or when you are done2. They will not lease these motors to a garage project. You would have to hsow proof you are a serious competetor w/ proper funding and Knowledge. Check Toda's website out. They have a section with pictures of the these motors. It does stae they will not sell them to anyone who intends to use them on the street. Hope that helps a little...

 

if you swap ANYTHING besides a f20c or f22c motor in a s2000, you're a MORON. s2000's arent meant to be drag cars, they're roadsters. and lets just say you do a ls7 swap... say goodbye to your handling. no more 50-50 weight distribution and no more motor mounted behind the front axle.

 

If you where able to find a IRL race motor, it would cost more than the cars worth.

 

I heard somewhere that the LS7 motoris within 30-50 lbs of the F20c motor. If this is true then how would the weight be thrown off? The S2000 motor is very heavy for its size. You would probably add 50lbs just having a SC or turbo added to the car.
I dont know where people got the idea that the newer small block chevy motors are POS or heavy etc. They make very good power for their weight. Maybe not for their displacment but in terms of power to weight i dont know of any production car with a better bang for buck then a Z06 C6.

 

It's not as much overall weight as weight distribution. The F20/F22's weight is concentrated into a smaller overall package, making it easier to put that weight where it matters most in chassis balancing, low and towards the middle. The LS motor would have it's weight distributed between two banks, long banks at that. Even pushed all the way towards the firewall, it might still hang over the front axle line.

 

IRL race motors are a good idea, compacting all that power into a 3 liter unit. If only you could get your hands on one...

 

alot of custom ****.. even if it is a possible swap

 

search ebay for one, I heard you can get anything on ebay!!!

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ZWD1V

only $16,900

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...wItem

for $7500

 

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Please, STFU. I have a S2000 that I use for drag. I know, I know. You think the s2k is god gift to the road track. But really, its not. The car is not 50/50, close but its not. You say the s2k was not ment to be a drag car. Well I say its not made for the track at all. Its a damn STREET car, is a Civic a drag car?

 

lmao...next thing we'll have is posts about someone wanting to drop an F16 engine into an S2000...they handle well right?

 

well actually my neighbor(whose daughter i grew up with) is a former nhra drag champion, and his daughter now drives his car. i would like to see what he thinks about this then get back to u guys. those ebay threads show the engine is out there. just not recent engines.

the point is to take hondas top model car and put hondas own race engine in to create the ultimate honda. 600 horses out of a N/A 3.0 is impressive, the small size makes the project possible. good point with the civics dragging.

and in response to s2000's arent drag cars, exactly, which is the motivation to create something original, do something not yet done, and to see and show what a honda s2000 can do on a track. its already a very light production car, more so considering its a convertible.

anybody can drop a chevy crate motor into their hyndai accent, but the point is to open some eyes about hondas potential, that isnt even close to being tapped.

for u guys in nj englishtown is having the first import nationals of the year may 5-6 weekend. i think those are the right dates, let me know if u guys want to meet up, should be fun. my aol is same name.

 

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GOD DAMN!

im not even going to touch on the fact that Honda made the S2k as close to a track car that is on the street. I mean if you want to get technical there is no production(that i know of) that is really a track only car. Any production car have any roll cages with harnesses from the factory? Nope. If so let me know i like being wrong. Maybe a new GT40 which i heard before they came out ath yuo needed a race permit or something. Rumor maybe.

 

if you do anything at all, make it functional. dropping an irl 3L into an S2k is not functional, then take something powerful and light, like a 13B-REW, and gain both in originality and power without weight compromise.
for instance take the jgtc nsx, it has the engine turned 90 degrees, so it is in line with the car..and again this creates function and coolness (that is if you have a few grand lying around)
do not fear to make unique projects, but keep em functional and driveable....
I had a 2.3L dohc vtec in my delsol, everybody said it would not work, but with proper suspension mods and a lot of custom fabwork, it was a go-kart.....

 

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Please, STFU. I have a S2000 that I use for drag. I know, I know. You think the s2k is god gift to the road track. But really, its not. The car is not 50/50, close but its not. You say the s2k was not ment to be a drag car. Well I say its not made for the track at all. Its a damn STREET car, is a Civic a drag car?</TD></TR></TABLE>


you obviously have never taken your car the the track, or have ever even driven in some sort curvy road....there are plenty other cars that are good for drag. why did you get an S if you don't think its a good track car only drag????

p.s. get off your high horse.