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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 03:08 PM
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I had my oil changed on March 17th, had a track day on March 20th and I've driven maybe 700kms since. It's black already . I use Castrol GTX 5w-30; always have. I've noticed it before but never really paid any attention to it.

Car runs fine, no problems whatsoever.

Comparing it to my mom's CR-V which is clean as hell after like 2500kms of driving, if not more.

Is this normal? Should I be concerned? Any idea what would be causing this if it is a problem?

Any input would be appreciated.

WR.
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 03:12 PM
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what does your air filter look like? If its dirty then its the problem... but to be honest with you i dont think its uncommon for it to be black that quickly... as long as the oil isnt thin..
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 03:13 PM
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Bingo!! Haven't cleaned the J's filter in two years .
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 03:35 PM
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Just curious, what does the air filter have to do with the oil being black quickly or not?
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 03:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SamC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just curious, what does the air filter have to do with the oil being black quickly or not?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Nothing. Theyre in a little world of their own

Its common for the oil to go black in a short space of time. If you were pumped around an engine at 70/80psi and at temps running close to 100degrees Celcius, you'd go black in a short space of time too
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 07:17 PM
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i heard if the oil gets dark fast. that means the piston ring's leaking
but.. i'm not too sure on that
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 07:45 PM
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on bobistheoilguy.com, synthetic oils going dark means that the oil is "working" or cleaning... not a bad thing.
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 07:48 PM
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Isn't it also good policy to change the oil after a track event anyways? Autocrossing is one thing, but lapping is another. The engine will be hotter for much longer.

I don't know much on this, but if I had to guess, I would think that is normal.
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 07:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Takumi Fujiwara &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">on bobistheoilguy.com, synthetic oils going dark means that the oil is "working" or cleaning... not a bad thing.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah I wouldn't worry too much as to what the oil looked like. If you're concerned, spend the $20-30 and have the oil analysez at Terry or Blackstone from BIOTG
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 07:54 PM
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yeah buddy, a track day with a 2 year old uncleaned airfilter will do it itself
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 07:56 PM
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Well, I guess the verdict is in; I'M A LAZY ****
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 11:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by white rocket &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well, I guess the verdict is in; I'M A LAZY **** </TD></TR></TABLE>

Quit taking all the credit, I'm a lazy **** too!
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Old Apr 18, 2006 | 03:31 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gmacarize &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what does your air filter look like? If its dirty then its the problem... but to be honest with you i dont think its uncommon for it to be black that quickly... as long as the oil isnt thin..</TD></TR></TABLE>

WTF? Ok there buddy.
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Old Apr 18, 2006 | 07:32 AM
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Enlighten me Dave. What's your opinion here? Seems that the dirty air filter response is getting split reviews.
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Old Apr 18, 2006 | 03:36 PM
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Its not getting split reviews, gmacarize mentioned it and you jumped to the conclusion that it was the reason for your oil turning black. gmacarize is talking through his ***.
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Old Apr 18, 2006 | 03:40 PM
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I have decided to not worry about it at this time. I doesn't seem to be causing me any sort of grief so I'll leave it alone for now.
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Old Apr 18, 2006 | 03:55 PM
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DUn worry about it too much...My oil turned dark after 7oo miles of driving. No track days.

But, you should ALWAYS change it after a track day...I do mine at the end of the day...
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Old Apr 18, 2006 | 03:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Circuit Star-29 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you should ALWAYS change it after a track day</TD></TR></TABLE>

Good to know. I will be getting on that, post haste
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Old Apr 18, 2006 | 04:03 PM
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Default Re: Oil going black rather quickly (white rocket)

I haven't changed my oil for the past 7,000 miles and air filter since 20,000 miles. I think it'll be fine.
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Old Apr 18, 2006 | 05:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by len &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I haven't changed my oil for the past 7,000 miles and air filter since 20,000 miles. I think it'll be fine. </TD></TR></TABLE>

that's right. drive it like a honda. =P anyway, as far as white rocket's comparison to the CRV, unless the CRV saw a track, i don't think it's a fair comparison.
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Old Apr 18, 2006 | 10:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mugenracer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Nothing. Theyre in a little world of their own

Its common for the oil to go black in a short space of time. If you were pumped around an engine at 70/80psi and at temps running close to 100degrees Celcius, you'd go black </TD></TR></TABLE>

... and never go back
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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 05:04 AM
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as already mentioned yes, the oil changing from the wonderful golden to darker and then black is quite normal.

If your so concerned about your oil then you should send a sample to blackstone labs for analysis:

http://www.blackstone-labs.com/
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