My 94 Civic EX needs some jump, but I don't want to go overboard, or get in over my head. Stock HP is 125hp, right? What are some cost-effective ways to up that number by 10% (idealy I'd like to up by 20%)?

 

Start with a cold air intake, maybe some headers, and an exhaust.. all depends on what your looking to spend..


Hope I Helped
-Cody

 

Okay, you mentioned 3 options; headers, exhaust, intake. For me, I'd be okay with about $500-600 on each one, course it would be one component at a time (cash flow is okay, but I'm not rolling in it).

My overall goal is up the stock HP and to upgrade (modestly) the suspension components.

I'm not look'n for extra rice by any means.

 

You shouldn't need to spend that much on any of the three components in all honesty. Just start searching on google and you'll be surprised what you find. A cold air intake should be installable on your own. I've never done headers. That and exhaust could be taken care of at any muffler/exhaust shop. Good luck!

 

you can get any cheap intake off ebay for like 50 bucks shipped.. granted it isnt brand name or antyhing, you could probably get a header for like 100 bucks.. you get what you pay for :-P

-Cody

 

after a major concensus by people here on HT, I've determined that the D16Z6's in the 92-95 EX coupes don't really have a future as a NA engine...ur only option is to bore/stroke with high comp pistons, titaninum valve springs and retainers (internals) or simply put a turbo in there... The standard upgrade is I/H/E (Intake, headers, exhaust), on the stock setup that'll prolly get u to like 140 (POSSIBLY) if you have good parts, but if u want anything more than that, u need a swap or a turbo...

Get a name brand Cold air intake, name brand 4-2 headers (better for everyday driving), and a name brand cat back exhaust (and I'd go w/ a high flow resonator instead of a catalytic converter if you don't need to pass emissions test)..

Yeah, u need to swap engines if u want more power

Ur Ideal 150 HP (20%) (assuming it's 125 which is probably less because it's got miles on it (miles = wear)) is probably NOT going to happen w/o turbo charging this engine, if you did that, then you would only need a cat back exhaust because the headers would be replaced by turbo headers and the CAI by an intercooler, you could probably pick up a used turbo system for 1.5k, so just save and spend in more bulk (wait a bit), or save more and get a swap (I'd go for a GSR (B18C1)(prolly pick a used one up for about 2.5k - 3k) but that's just me)

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The standard upgrade is I/H/E (Intake, headers, exhaust), on the stock setup that'll prolly get u to like 140 (POSSIBLY) if you have good parts, but if u want anything more than that, u need a swap or a turbo...

Get a name brand Cold air intake, name brand 4-2 headers (better for everyday driving), and a name brand cat back exhaust (and I'd go w/ a high flow resonator instead of a catalytic converter if you don't need to pass emissions test)..

Yeah, u need to swap engines if u want more power

Ur Ideal 150 HP (20%) (assuming it's 125 which is probably less because it's got miles on it (miles = wear)) is probably NOT going to happen w/o turbo charging this engine, if you did that, then you would only need a cat back exhaust because the headers would be replaced by turbo headers and the CAI by an intercooler, you could probably pick up a used turbo system for 1.5k, so just save and spend in more bulk (wait a bit), or save more and get a swap (I'd go for a GSR (B18C1)(prolly pick a used one up for about 2.5k - 3k) but that's just me)</TD></TR></TABLE>

doubtful on 140, more like 130 or so, coming from someone on this engine of 4 years now, it wont get 140 or any higher without a full build or turbo

you dont need name brand intake, its a pipe, just get a pipe with a good filter and itll be just the same, id suggest K&N, Apexi, or AEM filters

header(NO S ON THE END), you get what you pay for, megan racing actually makes a header that is considerably good for the money, pretty cheap price wise if i remember correctly

and you can build a homemade/used turbo kit for WELL under 1500 bux

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by isumase &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">doubtful on 140, more like 130 or so, coming from someone on this engine of 4 years now, it wont get 140 or any higher without a full build or turbo

you dont need name brand intake, its a pipe, just get a pipe with a good filter and itll be just the same, id suggest K&N, Apexi, or AEM filters

header(NO S ON THE END), you get what you pay for, megan racing actually makes a header that is considerably good for the money, pretty cheap price wise if i remember correctly

and you can build a homemade/used turbo kit for WELL under 1500 bux</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm surprised he's the first one to mention turbo since you said that you wouldn't mind spending $500-$600 on each part. You could buy some JDM-crap and spend $1500 and get .00000001 hp more than what you get now or you could put $2k down on a turbo kit and be about as fast as a stock ITR.

Going the N/A route ( I/H/E ) you'll be lucky to see 10 HP. Turbo it right and you'll be putting 160-170 to the wheels.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">after a major concensus by people here on HT, I've determined that the D16Z6's in the 92-95 EX coupes don't really have a future as a NA engine...ur only option is to bore/stroke with high comp pistons, titaninum valve springs and retainers (internals) or simply put a turbo in there... The standard upgrade is I/H/E (Intake, headers, exhaust), on the stock setup that'll prolly get u to like 140 (POSSIBLY) if you have good parts, but if u want anything more than that, u need a swap or a turbo...

Get a name brand Cold air intake, name brand 4-2 headers (better for everyday driving), and a name brand cat back exhaust (and I'd go w/ a high flow resonator instead of a catalytic converter if you don't need to pass emissions test)..

Yeah, u need to swap engines if u want more power

Ur Ideal 150 HP (20%) (assuming it's 125 which is probably less because it's got miles on it (miles = wear)) is probably NOT going to happen w/o turbo charging this engine, if you did that, then you would only need a cat back exhaust because the headers would be replaced by turbo headers and the CAI by an intercooler, you could probably pick up a used turbo system for 1.5k, so just save and spend in more bulk (wait a bit), or save more and get a swap (I'd go for a GSR (B18C1)(prolly pick a used one up for about 2.5k - 3k) but that's just me)</TD></TR></TABLE>

your talking out your *** and regergitating bullshit you've heard on here before. my advice is to go to d-series.org if you want to continue with the d. or buy a whole bunch of turbo headers. wtf is a turbo header?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Civicse &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">your talking out your *** and regergitating bullshit you've heard on here before. my advice is to go to d-series.org if you want to continue with the d. or buy a whole bunch of turbo headers. wtf is a turbo header?</TD></TR></TABLE>

bout time someone pointed out he was doing that, hes got a thread on here about his car "breaking up" and he used vtec in one paragraph id guess 20 times(estimate) and how he was runnin his engine up to "4000 RPMs" (by the way there is no "s" on rpm either, i HATE when people do that, it stands for revolutionS/rotationS per minute, where does the s come into play after minute? does it stand for **** or shaBOW?) and how that was a bit high and his vtec was "kicking"(even though vtec doesnt "kick in" till well after 4000, closer to 5000 and then the engine would break up and ****, dude you have a d16, you can barely feel it squirm let alone kick! i know i have one too but the difference is that i know i cant feel it "kick"

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by isumase &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

bout time someone pointed out he was doing that, hes got a thread on here about his car "breaking up" and he used vtec in one paragraph id guess 20 times(estimate) and how he was runnin his engine up to "4000 RPMs" (by the way there is no "s" on rpm either, i HATE when people do that, it stands for revolutionS/rotationS per minute, where does the s come into play after minute? does it stand for **** or shaBOW?) and how that was a bit high and his vtec was "kicking"(even though vtec doesnt "kick in" till well after 4000, closer to 5000 and then the engine would break up and ****, dude you have a d16, you can barely feel it squirm let alone kick! i know i have one too but the difference is that i know i cant feel it "kick"</TD></TR></TABLE>

Cry me a ******* river, bitch.

Notice how I used the word "like" - as a simile, meaning exact information isn't required, and so what if I used vtec 20 times in one paragraph....I'll make it 21 next time for ya..

It's funny the way some of you dicks talk, most of the **** I am "regergitating" is **** I've heard on here before, as I don't usually deal with 4 bangers, never-the-less, IT WAS YOU ******* PEOPLE WHO SAID IT....so when it comes from you it's aight, but when it comes from me, **** *****, it be false

So I was wrong, on his D16Z6 he can't put out 140, he can only put out 130 w/ I/H/E, so ******* sue me.

As for yoru grammar lesson, I'll turn it around for you, when using something in an acronym form, the implied "s" doesn't necccessarily have to pluralize the last word in it, it can pluralize any of the words that compose it. In the case of "RPMs", the "s" is pluralizing "revolutions" (which btw is revolutions, not "/rotations" by definition, you dopy expletive), so before you give me a grammar lesson, make sure YOU aren't talking out of your ***....

Oh I'm sorry I confused the simple minded with the "turbo header" statement, maybe it's "turbo manifold" --- for the people that cannot tell what I meant, I almost pitty how ******* stupid you are.

And lastly, if you read it closely, I said absofuckinglutely nothing about 4000 being high for my vtec, if I remember correctly, it's 4800 by stock, but don't quote me, I'm talking out my ***.


You two hypocritical ******* morons are sitting there saying and I quote: "your talking out your *** and regergitating bullshit you've heard on here before"

Yeah.....but it's true....why should you care where I got it from? I coulda learned it from you, I could have searched the web for it, it doesn't matter, point being, it's true -- consume a dick.

 

nawwwwwssss

 

a) dont call me *****, im not your ***** nor anyone's ***** racist f.uck

b) use it 21 times, i dont give a ****, just makes you sound like a douche

c) dont worry about the grammer lesson, your still wrong, if it has an "s" on the end of the word already, no "s" is needed at the end, hence me saying it is not RPMs and just RPM, you yourself even said it stands for revolutionS so unless you're saying revolutionss with two "s's" then it is not needed and not grammatically correct.

d) we can tell what you mean about the turbo header, we're just trying to straighten out the new people so they dont turn into complete tools like yourself

e) <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Now, if i drive normally, shift at say 4k (which even that is a bit high, but because of this problem I've been doing that) and it has different break ups at different RPM's</TD></TR></TABLE> sounds like you said it was high to me

f) die in a fire or just let your vtec "kick" your ***

 

I never said you were "my *****."

If I use it 21 times I sound like a douche - to you, so refer to my first words, which if I recall were "cry me a ******* river." -- Like I'm supposed to care what I sound to a piece of **** like you.

It could be RPM, or it could be RPMs, in the improper context that RPMs is used, it could refer to any word in teh acronym to pluralize it, one revolution would be 1 RPM, now you can pluralize that by saying 2 RPM, or you can say 2 RPMs enabling one of the words in the acronym to be plural, and since you can't change a slash (per), it could be revolution(s) or minute(s), and since it's completely illogicaly to measure it with two different variables (revolutions and minutes) I'd assume you'd be able to figure out that it would pluralize the word "revolutions." -- And I assumed wrong because obviously you didn't figure it out.

straighten me out? So I said turbo header, instead of turbo manifold, you knew what i meant, I knew what I meant, everybody else who ******* read it knew what I meant, I appreciate your concern, I do, but please, don't make any attempts to help me (or help yourself as the mass of "tools" seems to affect you so harshly).

as for E......I still didn't say anything about the vtec kicking in at 4K.....I mean I think it's obvious u failed english...
"Now, if i drive normally, shift at say 4k (which even that is a bit high, but because of this problem I've been doing that) and it has different break ups at different RPM's"

Now when I say
"shift at say 4k" I mean
"I shifted from first to second approximately 4k"
(now keep in mind I still didn't mention vtec)
"now even that's a bit high" now when I say that part I mean
"now even 4k is a bit high for shifting if you're taking it easy"

And that's what you quoted...and I still didn't mention vtec (ironic since I mentioned it 20 times in other paragraphs like you stated, so if I said I shifted at 4k RPM (for your sake I left off the "s") which is a bit high for takign it easy (it shouldn't bog down), obviously you understood it as "holy ****, my vtec engages at 4k and that's a bit high"...Which is truely a pathetic understanding of what I said...

f) die in a fire or just let your vtec "kick" your ***
Since you want it, it will never happen.

 

you did say <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but when it comes from me, **** *****, it be false</TD></TR></TABLE> which implies you calling me a ***** in which i responded with "dont call me *****"

it's still RPM

never said straighten you out, i said straighten out the new people, not you

i wasnt making fun of the any comment about vtec, i was making fun of you using it and how it kicks in 3 times and you can feel it in your d-series prior to the RPM comment in which i was surprised to actually hear someone say 4000 RPM is high and have NEVER heard that on honda-tech before

learn to read fuckstick cause everything i just said was correcting what you did not read correctly

EDIT: YES!!! SYNDACATE LOVES ME SO MUCH HE WANTS TO SEE ME EVERYDAY IN HIS SIG!!! THATS SO FREAKIN AWESOME

 

basic bolt ons would be a start exhaust header intake cams

 

No, I was purely meaning "*****" in a sincere and honest way of conveying the term "homie" or "friend" or "bro" or "amigo" - take your pick.

If I said "******", then I would have been purely referring to you as a black person in a racial context. Again, I have to apologize for your misunderstanding.

It can swing either way, RPM or RPMs, even though the proper way would be considered RPM, it is NOT gramatically incorrect to say RPMs, if you tried to correct everybody on the internet who said RPMs instead of RPM, and tried to change every single person's proper word usage, then you'd be correcting things like "it's not mine" to "it is not mine" -- as contractions aren't proper usage either....but again, they're not gramatically incorrect...

and again I must refer you to my first psot, where I said "LIKE" - I mean ****, what's wrong with you, are you actually reading what's in front of you, I said it's "like vtec kicking in" - insinuating that it got stronger, notice how I said (power increases by like 3x, it gets strong), I didn't say it WAS vtec, I was saying it's LIKE vtec (back to the simile concept), now if ur going to complain about the amount it kicks, then let's just say I meant "it felt like the vtec kick on a GSR"

And again, if you're going to correct me about grammar usage, I might as well return the favor..

The term "fuckstick" would be insinuating the word "dick", if you used proper grammar you would have simply called me a dick, rather than a fuckstick, much like I said RPMs, when the proper grammar would have been RPM...yet neither arecorrect grammar...

 

first off im not black(pretty god damn obvious if you look at my avatar) and second i dont care what sense you used that term in, its racist, its a form or the word "******" and if you dont believe so, refer to some of bill cosby's latest talks on the use of the word and how its degrading and then tell me its not racist and its a way of saying amigo or homie or whatever you wanna say.

i prefer the word fuckstick as it's a bit more demeaning

im gonna end it there cause you just made yourself look like a ******* dumbass by saying ***** is not racist. have a good one and i cant wait to see my name in your sig everytime i see you reply in a thread.

 

dude how come black people are the majority of wannabees and ricers? this slave doesnt know what hes talking about, nor do other dub rolling trash digging niggz forget this kid he pisses me off, im not a racist but when i get pissed off i am

 

add me to that list u ricer pieace of junk haha

 

are you referring to me or syndacate? cause im a down-home white boy, look at my av, its like the god damned sun

 

LMFAO, you guys are killing me!

This poor guy comes to H-T to get suggestions and boy does he get some entertainment to go with it! Ha!

On a serious note:

If you can afford 500 to 600 on each upgrade, then I would save up for a turbo setup. That's if you're D is in good shape. If it's not, I would put it toward a B18C.

 

I like the way you insinuate that just because I said "*****" I'm automatically black, I'm in fact white, you stupid expletive.

 

i never said you were black but you shouldnt be using that word if you arent, honestly no one should but if blacks chose to use the word then let them but that doesnt give you a right to say it, i know some big mother ******* that would say it to their buddy and then then hear you say it and stop you...bad choice

 

syndicate is the retarded ricer