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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 05:45 PM
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I have a set of YOKO ES100, and because of the negative camber, my inner side of the tires are wearing out in the front. Is there any harm if I take it to the tire shop and have it flipped around (outside thread inside). The tires are rotational tires. Anyone with experience that can share?
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 05:55 PM
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You will loose traction when cornering when you flip tires resulting in an accident.
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 06:04 PM
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Lowered 1.5". Same situation, with the ES100s. Since I can mount/unmount my own wheels, yeah, I swapped left and right. The contact patch is going to be smaller, and it looks kinda funny (since the worn patch is then on the outside corner, which you can see everytime you walk by the car).

Ended up installing Omni Power front camber kit, to help with the negative camber. (I already did the rear washer trick.)

Also, now running Toyo T1-S/T1-R tires.... much better wet/dry performance than the ES100s, in my opinion.
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 06:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1998_4dr_gsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a set of YOKO ES100, and because of the negative camber, my inner side of the tires are wearing out in the front. Is there any harm if I take it to the tire shop and have it flipped around (outside thread inside). The tires are rotational tires. Anyone with experience that can share? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Not a good idea. Can cause an accident.
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 07:02 PM
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how so?
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 07:06 PM
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getting an alignment would be cheaper than getting tires flipped wouldn't you think so?
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 07:30 PM
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I had a 4 wheel laser alignment prior putting in my brand new ES100's.
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 08:06 PM
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what degree negative camber are you running?
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 08:17 PM
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Bad Idea
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 09:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blkb18 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what degree negative camber are you running?</TD></TR></TABLE>

fronts were -2.3

and what's a bad idea?
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 09:17 PM
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thats a little excessive for daily driver, unless you like buying tires.
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 10:09 PM
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i have the avs es 100s and the "V" thread pattern can only be the rotating the way it was designed to roll for optimum grip. the tire was not designed to spin the other direction. u can rotate the tires by swithing the fronts with the rears keepin the tires on the same side of the car only!
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 10:19 PM
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Omni for the win. My car is lowered quite a bit and have no negative camber.



I have full Omni suspension. I love it.
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 10:30 PM
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i can see your negative camber. your rear has no negative camber. your front looks like it has about -1.5 camber
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 10:44 PM
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people do this all the time to get the most out of their tires. ive done it many times. just be aware your tires are not 100% so dont go taking turns at 100%.
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 11:38 PM
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For me I felt better turn in with a 1.0 Rear camber and I have the front at 1.2 I think.

My nitto 450's are wearing evenly as well.
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 05:31 AM
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You can't have directional tires spinning backwards, and if tires have been spinning in one direction and you switch them so they're going the opposite direction, they're more likely to break belts, that's why tire shops don't do cross rotation any more just front to back. If you're going to have them dismounted and remounted so that the worn areas are on the outside I don't really see a problem but I don't think your handling will be as good.
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 05:42 AM
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your handling wont be as good because youre running worn *** tires anyways..

as long has you get them flipped and are still spinning the right direction, its better than running them into the nylon and eventually the steel belts
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 10:59 AM
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your best bet is just to change the tires..sacrificing your conering and traction isn't such a good idea..

heres a good comparison:

if you cut yur seat belt would you just tie is back together and assume it was okay..[i think not]
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 11:02 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 87shytwhip &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you cut yur seat belt would you just tie is back together and assume it was okay..[i think not]</TD></TR></TABLE>

Depends .. what kind of knot is it??


Lol, If the OP is asking if you Can do it,
then I would assume he is looking for more thread life, and not highspeed traction.
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 12:08 PM
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"get a flippin camber kit", lol. i got a cheap one of ebay and tread wear is even and traction mucho better.
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 12:20 PM
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flippin your tires around will ruine the tires..they are made to rotate one way!..if you flip it..you defeat the whole point of the design.
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 01:03 PM
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Yes, they are made to only spin one direction. If you spin them backwards, it will separate the belt, and the tire will have a huge buldge in it. Not only that, but driving in the rain would suck, because the tread wouldn't allow the water to evacuate from underneath the tire, and instead cause it to puddle in front of the tread, causing extreme hydroplaning.
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 01:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by loudassVTEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes, they are made to only spin one direction. If you spin them backwards, it will separate the belt, and the tire will have a huge buldge in it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

no it wouldnt, all it will do it make it wear faster.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Lauj87 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">flippin your tires around will ruine the tires..they are made to rotate one way!..if you flip it..you defeat the whole point of the design.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you can flip the tires on the rims and still have them going the right direction. just put them on the other side of the car. you guys are reading too much in to his question

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by soloteg2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Bad Idea</TD></TR></TABLE>
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HONDA RR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You will loose traction when cornering when you flip tires resulting in an accident.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you guys sure like spreading mis information dont you. flipping the tires around will not make the tires any worse than they already are.

if you have really worn tires anyways you are gonna have a hard time getting a reputable shop flip them for you. most reputable shops wont re mount a tire that has less than 3/32nds on any part of the tire .
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 01:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 87shytwhip &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">your best bet is just to change the tires..sacrificing your conering and traction isn't such a good idea..

heres a good comparison:

if you cut yur seat belt would you just tie is back together and assume it was okay..[i think not]</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats a stupid *** comparison. people flip their tires all the time
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