How come everytime Importreview dyno's Toda vs. Jun, Jun comes out on top in every aspect of the pwoer/tq curve...do they have a biased dyno??? and everyone on HT seems to get more power from Toda

 

good question, haven't really looked hard enough to notice that JUN takes over.

 

maybe JUN just has a better cam?

 

This coming from the guy that is PRO TODA all the way???

 

I never said that i was. Up until recently I havent had any first hand experience
with JUN cams. So obviously I cannot recommend something I know nothing
about right?

 

Very True

 

THe only time JUN outpowers Toda is from around 7000-8800 rpms. Below 7000 is all toda. I was a JUN III owner and now going toda. Midrange, Midrange and midrange. Reving past 8000 all the time will wear on the engine not to mention oil consumption for me.

 

well doesn't Toda C's outperform Jun3's from all throughout the range?

 

No, JUN III have more peak HP and torque

 

haha, i was wondering why no one else thought of that.

 

I saw one of their dyno graph that showed the ITR cams made 15-20 more whps at the midrange than the JUN and Toda cams. It really make me wonder!! Is that mean if I just change from ITR to Toda spec C, I will loss 20whps in the midrange??

 

What I don't understand...is if Toda C's have nicer midrange than JUN's and still have the top end like the JUN why doesn't EVERYONE run toda c's?

 

not everyone wants to deal with idle issues. JUN III idles like stock.

 

Yeah, and I can't imagine the stress that the valvetrain is going through by switching to such a mild non-VTEC lobe to a monstrous VTEC lobe...OUCH

 

I think everyone that's on this board uses the Toda valvetrain With Toda C cams.....and I believe they are all daily driven cars...and have had no problems and some of them have had no problems and it's been a year

 

Oh and BTW I believe the Non-Vtec lobes on the spec c's are the same size as the ones on the B's...correct me if I'm wrong
Oops misread your post...thought it said non-vtec lobe..yea the vtec lobes are monstrous...but hey who cares...many people can vouch that they are fully streetable


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