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Old Apr 9, 2006 | 08:40 PM
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I have a 98' ITR with about 9k miles on it and honda recommends to change the timing belt every 7 years or 105k miles. I know that I should change the main seal, water and oil pump at the same time but since I have only 9k miles, should I just replace only the timing belt? Would this be safe? What do you guys think? (kind of lazy to do all that other stuff)
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 01:05 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ildknyli &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a 98' ITR with about 9k miles on it and honda recommends to change the timing belt every 7 years or 105k miles. I know that I should change the main seal, water and oil pump at the same time but since I have only 9k miles, should I just replace only the timing belt? Would this be safe? What do you guys think? (kind of lazy to do all that other stuff)</TD></TR></TABLE>


Well, you don't *have* to do anything. Personally, I would do the water pump and timing belt. You want to do those together because they basically go hand in hand. Once you have the timing belt off, changing the water pump only takes 20mins longer.

I personally wouldn't mess with the oil pump. That requires draining the oil and dropping the pan, plus that's an extra $100.


FYI, a new oil pump comes with a new front main seal. However, the rear main seal is the one that usually has leakage problems. Replacing the rear main seal entails dropping the tranny, removing the clutch and flywheel, and dropping the pan. It's a huge ordeal.
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 04:53 PM
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You should get many more miles out of your oil pump. I would replace the timing belt, and water pump while your at it.
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 09:07 PM
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Thanks guys, I am going to do that...change just the water pump.

Also do I need to change the tensioner pulley and/or spring?
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 10:41 PM
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Yeah. Tensioners wear out the fastest amongst those parts. And you have to loosen it to get the belt off anyhow.
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 11:45 PM
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When you buy a new water pump, it usually comes with a new tensioner pulley.
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 03:17 PM
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replace it all... since it hasnt been driven much the seals may be hardened and crack leading to leakage...

wouldnt worry about the oil pump

the timing belt kit comes with the tensioner, but the water pump should not.^^^
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 04:58 PM
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Wait, is it really 9,000 or is it 90,000? If it only has 9,000 actual miles, you don't hace to replace the oil pump or the water pump. Still replace the belt though.

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the timing belt kit comes with the tensioner, but the water pump should not.^^^</TD></TR></TABLE>

I guess it depends where you buy it. My timing belt came by itself, but my water pump came with the tensioner.

If you look on ebay, you can probably find a kit that has everything.
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 05:49 PM
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oh
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 09:43 PM
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So no water pump now...Eventhough its been 8 years?


Modified by ildknyli at 12:26 AM 4/12/2006
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 10:49 PM
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Time doesn't wear out mechanical parts, only mileage. When Honda wrote the manual they never expected an 8 year old car to have 9k miles.


The only things you should worry about are rubber products. Seals, gaskets, drive belts, etc. I'd definitely change the timing belt. Definitely DON'T change the pumps - I garantee that's a waste of money.
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 02:19 PM
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Cool guys...So just the T Belt and Tensioner pulley and bolt.
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 05:17 PM
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The tensioner will be fine, no need to replace it. There's no way the bearings will be bad after 9k miles. Mine still had pretty good bearings at 90k.
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 07:01 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ildknyli &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a 98' ITR with about 9k miles on it and honda recommends to change the timing belt every 7 years or 105k miles. I know that I should change the main seal, water and oil pump at the same time but since I have only 9k miles, should I just replace only the timing belt? Would this be safe? What do you guys think? (kind of lazy to do all that other stuff)</TD></TR></TABLE>

Am I missing something? I've never heard of a regular service interval at all for the main seal and oil pump. As far as I know these never need replacement unless they actually fail.

As for the timing belt and the rest, I'm not sure I'd even bother with such low mileage, but I'm not a professional mechanic or a Honda engineer. Seems like both these items should only fail from use, not time. The belt does have rubber in it, but even so you could probably get a few more years' use out of it.
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 07:12 PM
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It's not just that the belt has rubber in it, it's that it's been subjected to 8 years of tension. That causes it to stretch slightly.
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 10:30 PM
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just do the timing belt/tensioner/waterpump and replace any leaking seals
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 10:36 PM
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Who in their right mind would replace a water pump with 9,000 miles on it?! I think that one's been ruled out already.
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