After going to the NY autoshow there was only really 1 car that made me want to trade in the R. Only one car that made me ask questions or go back to look at it 3 or 4 times. This car was the Lancer Evo VII.

If you think the lancer OZ is ugly as hell you not alone but the lancer EVo VII looks like a completely different car. I even think the frame of the car is different. In person this thing looks mean and nice. The Intercooler just says brings it on and I an imagine how the computer assisted AWD handles this beast. I talked to the Mitsu representative and they said it will be out in September of 2002 as a 2003 and the price will be about 30,000 and its got 276 hp. The only difference between this model and the european one will be the intercooler and a different exhaust. All you have to do is change those two items, chip it and you've got an M3, porsche eating animal. With really good parts thats only like $3000 worth of mods.

I'm really sick of pouring money into the R and only getting minimal results. Also I talked to the rep from subaru and she confirmed the STI coming in september 2003. WTF, our cars are gonna be eaten up everywhere in every form of racing, Drag, autocross, track, street, whatever your into you'll get spanked.

Honda better come out with something good to compete with this. Not just a 220hp type R. It'll get rocked too. The Reputation of our cars is gonna go down because of this. Who's gonna care if we have the mythical Type R if its losing all the time.

Hey I just may have to trade her for one of these, just not to get left in the dust. Tell me how you feel brothers and sisters (sorry for the long post)


[Modified by hooptie157, 8:19 PM 4/5/2002]

 

I think if you learn to drive good enough, you can beat any car on the track no matter what kind of car your in. Sounds like your just addicted to speed, and not you ITR.

 

me and a few others WILL own the EVO when its out

 

Well if the Mistu. Lancer Evo 7 is built like there forklifts then I don't want it. It will fall apart no time. Might as well buy a ford.

 

I LOVE my ITR without a doubt. BUT yes I love Speed, if I didn't I would have bought a kia. I sure everyone in here loves speed and performance (thats why they bought the car). I was just saying this car has more speed and performance then our cars. With the added advantage of AWD its hard to pass up (traction, traction, and more traction whoo hoo)

 

euro plans to get an EVO

 

Although I agree that you will NEVER be satisfied if outright speed is the most important thing to you in a vehicle, I also agree that Honda needs to stop being so conservative with its vehicle lineup. I'm not saying Honda should make a rally car but there should be more than just 2 RWD cars in the stable. FWD has its limitations and some of the upcoming cars are going to make this painfully obvious (Z, RX-8, Evo 7, STi).

Honda has more pure racing heritage than any other car company short of Ferrari yet they choose to let their production cars get overshadowed in performance by decidely less sporting marques. Perhaps if Honda makes a RWD 300 hp Prelude I'll be happy but until then only the S2000, NSX, and ITR are holding down the fort. And right now I'm not so keen on sticking with front wheel drive, especially when we start talking about spending upwards of $25K.

Disclaimer: I am someone who looks at cars on road racing terms therefore my opinions are based on the relative competition potential of vehicles. The RSX-R may in fact get classed well and do well in racing for the next couple of years.

 

I plan on gettin gone. Good everyday car and turn the ITR into a track car. Thinm, the Evo can tow a ITR? if it can I just found my new car...

 

LOL. We have a DAEWOO forklift at work.

The others are BTs and Clarks tho... They dun make cars. One of them has a Toyota forklift keyfob tho. HRm.

Useless post of the day.

 

Yes, but that mean nobody else on the track has to know what he is doing. May be a special event where anly one experienced driver allowed would help the Type R keep the crown.

 

Just buy a supra and put all your worries, you won't be worried about corners when your doing the 1/4 in 9-10 seconds in a street car.

 

I'm really not only into the 1/4 mile. I would love AWD for some fun in the snow and for some pretty bad *** lauches and corning. A supra would be fun but RWD in NJ in the winter epuals a no no. And I could spend 30,000 on a new car not a used one


[Modified by hooptie157, 8:59 PM 4/5/2002]

 

 

Yeah, I might have to change my signature.

 

I can't wait to check out the EVO, I'll be at the NY auto show tomorrow. But I really want to see an elise.

 

There will always be another, faster car out there .. all depends on how many times you want to keep trading your car in

 

$50 says the Evo or STi or whatever wont be near as fun to drive as the ITR. With AWD, all kinds of crazy systems, all the bullshit=weight. I'm sure they will be fast, but i'll take my "runnin naked through the woods" ITR over technology and weight anyday.

 

I'll take you up on that bet

 

typeR is a great car and it'll be a great car even 10 years down the road. An example is E30 M3 It is underpowered by today's standards, but it eats up many, many cars on the track.

 

if I bought an EVO or one of those tech-heavy turbo cars, it would be for daily driving. I dont think they would feel quite nimble enough (as compared to my R) around the road courses/autox.

Let's be real here though...what are most people going to do with their EVO/STi's? Street racing.

 

AWD kills on the street.

 

I've seen plenty of WRX's at autocrosses, they are not that great but I've seen a bunch of em

 

<---- Future Lan Evo owner. All around track car.

Lan Evo rules. Boost owns!!! Burning out on 4 tires while doing doughnuts = priceless.


BTW, i will be keeping my turbo teg.

 

With the way things are going, in 10 years automatic v6 camry's will be eating ITRs alive EVERYWHERE (drag racing, autox, road course).

 

drag racing, maybe. autoX and road course? I don't think so.

p.s. try racing against a E30 M3 at autoX and track... stock vs. stock. You'll be sorry.