Improving your gas mileage! What Oil Companies DO NOT want us to know!
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Today I found out that if a person were to use acetone in their vehicle (only 3 ounces per 10 gallons) you could reach up to 30% Miles per gallon in your car. The cost is very cheap, it would only cost you 45 cents per tank while cleaning up your emissions (hydrocarbon reduced 60%), increasing engine life, more power, and easier startups just to begin.
http://www.pureenergysystems.c...etone/
http://www.pureenergysystems.c...etone/
Well someone try it and let all us skeptical people know how it works.
I would try it but not on a build integra and my diesel dually. Both worth to much to risk over a little savings.
But interested to see
I would try it but not on a build integra and my diesel dually. Both worth to much to risk over a little savings.
But interested to see
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I am going to put it into my civic tommorrow, it has 140k miles on it, so I dont have anything to lose! They say putting in less is more, so I am going to start out with 1 ounce. I will keep everybody updated. This is huge! I haven't seen anything this cheap, I wish I would have found it sooner.
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Other things you can do....
- Check tire pressure
- Drive slower and smoother
- Avoid Cold starts (combine trips)
- Do not Idle
- Do not 'warm up' the car in cold.
- Stay away from stations that use Alcohol in their fuel blends.
- Get rid of that junk in your trunk: either you or your car
(100 lb. less = +1mpg)Modified by tomauto at 9:11 PM 4/8/2006
I don't buy it. But if it works all the power to you.
The explanations in that website as to why/how it works seem pretty lame and false. Nor does the article have any credible resources, science, data, or researchers to back any of these claims up. I could very well write an identical article claiming that pissing in your gas tank increases gas millage cause the natural frequency of my dick "stirs up" the molecules of the gas.
In any case good luck with your experiment and trials and I wish you the best of luck. Please report your findings.
Cheers.
The explanations in that website as to why/how it works seem pretty lame and false. Nor does the article have any credible resources, science, data, or researchers to back any of these claims up. I could very well write an identical article claiming that pissing in your gas tank increases gas millage cause the natural frequency of my dick "stirs up" the molecules of the gas.
In any case good luck with your experiment and trials and I wish you the best of luck. Please report your findings.
Cheers.
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Who is to say that any fuel add on works? Just because some company says it works doesn't mean it does...It just means they want your money. I'll sacrifice $3 bucks for acetone and a couple gallons of gas. I think it is worth a shot anyway.
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They took fuel system parts and soaked them in various deluted levels of acetone. The parts showed no significant warping. So they consider it safe on all but "cheap" plastics. Now what is cheap or not, would of course for you to use caution.
Modified by tomauto at 9:11 PM 4/8/2006
Modified by tomauto at 9:11 PM 4/8/2006
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tomauto »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Who is to say that any fuel add on works? Just because some company says it works doesn't mean it does...It just means they want your money. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Well usually they just put clever wording like "can improve milage", "has been shown to improve performance in some engines", "will feel better", "may make your dick look bigger"....etc. You get the drift. If they make false claims about their product they can get in a lot of trouble. This is also why not a lot of people use fuel additives. My friend uses gas line antifreeze when it gets cold (he has a diesel), I use gas stabilizer when I am putting the snow blower or the lawn mower away for the season.
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I'll sacrifice $3 bucks for acetone and a couple gallons of gas. I think it is worth a shot anyway.</TD></TR></TABLE>
My only concern would be what the acetone might do to some of your engine components. Is it safe for your injectors? Will it leave combustion residues that might mess up your O2 sensor or clog your cat? I don't know this and that is why I would not do it to my car unless I got confirmation from a reliable source(s) that it is infact safe to use.
But again, I wish you the best of luck and please report your findings.
"If it's too good to be true......it probably is"
Well usually they just put clever wording like "can improve milage", "has been shown to improve performance in some engines", "will feel better", "may make your dick look bigger"....etc. You get the drift. If they make false claims about their product they can get in a lot of trouble. This is also why not a lot of people use fuel additives. My friend uses gas line antifreeze when it gets cold (he has a diesel), I use gas stabilizer when I am putting the snow blower or the lawn mower away for the season.
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I'll sacrifice $3 bucks for acetone and a couple gallons of gas. I think it is worth a shot anyway.</TD></TR></TABLE>
My only concern would be what the acetone might do to some of your engine components. Is it safe for your injectors? Will it leave combustion residues that might mess up your O2 sensor or clog your cat? I don't know this and that is why I would not do it to my car unless I got confirmation from a reliable source(s) that it is infact safe to use.
But again, I wish you the best of luck and please report your findings.
"If it's too good to be true......it probably is"
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http://peswiki.com/index.php/D...st.3F
I picked up on this because somebody was having some injector problems and another person recommended using acetone. So I decieded to do a google search and the first thing that came up was saving fuel. So we will see.
I picked up on this because somebody was having some injector problems and another person recommended using acetone. So I decieded to do a google search and the first thing that came up was saving fuel. So we will see.
obviously this guy is being paid to push this product...i have a feeling that this acetone thing does as much for your gas mileage as the "tornado" does...
You forgot one big gas saver, The brakes. Everytime you hit the brakes you have wasted fuel. What I am saying is by getting off the gas earlier before you stop can save you alot.
The harder you have to hit the brakes the more gas you are wasting.
Something to think about!
The harder you have to hit the brakes the more gas you are wasting.
Something to think about!
you know how many companies make acetone. he's not getting paid to push it. he hasnt even mentioned a company brand to push. he's just trying to help.
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I already make sure I coast as much as possible. I am just tring to push the envelope. I am not making any money on this. This stuff is everywhere.
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Yea right. When you go out and buy a can, pour some into a small can (not styrofoam or plastic), so metal. And put a piece of a rubber (hose), or plastic into it. Let it soak for a couple hours, or even overnight. And see what happens.</TD></TR></TABLE>
All I know is that a lot of Acetone is sold in PLASTIC bottles to woman who dip their fingers in this stuff.
I dont have Acetone available, but whats suppose to happen to the rubber hose? I would say nothing but a hose that smells like nail polish remover.
Yea right. When you go out and buy a can, pour some into a small can (not styrofoam or plastic), so metal. And put a piece of a rubber (hose), or plastic into it. Let it soak for a couple hours, or even overnight. And see what happens.</TD></TR></TABLE>
All I know is that a lot of Acetone is sold in PLASTIC bottles to woman who dip their fingers in this stuff.
I dont have Acetone available, but whats suppose to happen to the rubber hose? I would say nothing but a hose that smells like nail polish remover.
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I dont see it melting through that plastic. And gasoline is nearly as corrosive.
Another thing Neo...
It isn't pure acetone going through my fuel system.
Modified by tomauto at 12:27 AM 4/7/2006
Another thing Neo...
It isn't pure acetone going through my fuel system.
Modified by tomauto at 12:27 AM 4/7/2006
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Well, after reading that link, the second to the last post explains to me one thing. The oil companies want us to keep buying their gasoline. It is going to be a sad day when the oil runs out.
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I put 2.5 oz in, and that is 600:1. Gasoline:Acetone... I have been reading this site. Where I supposed it all has come from. And he never mentions anything about effects on the exhaust system except that it is running cleaner emmissions. It has me slightly concerned.
http://www.lubedev.com/smartgas/additive.htm
I am past being concered about the corrosiveness of the acetone, no worries there. I am not worried about running lean since it is still more than 99.95% gasoline.
I am somewhat concerned about my fuel filter. After 140k I think it needs to be changed anyway. I dont want to be freeing up whatever is trapped inside.
http://www.lubedev.com/smartgas/additive.htm
I am past being concered about the corrosiveness of the acetone, no worries there. I am not worried about running lean since it is still more than 99.95% gasoline.
I am somewhat concerned about my fuel filter. After 140k I think it needs to be changed anyway. I dont want to be freeing up whatever is trapped inside.
A number of members ran it in their vehicles on a board that is now shutdown... As I recall, there was no statistically significant increase in fuel mileage. No one reported damage to their vehicle running it.
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I have a 2.5 ounces worth of Acetone in my tank right now (12 gallons). I did a "city run" where I drove the exact same path. I timed the event and the time with the acetone was 10 seconds quicker. I was stopped for a second the first time deciding where to go. On my fill up before I topped off my tank I added 3.857 gallons of gas on 146.6 miles which is just over 38 mpg.
My testing procedure:
My engine was at normal temperature and tires are at recommended PSI. I also had a friend along to witness. The total test took 1 hour. I chose BP Fuels.
I own a 1996 Honda Civic Lx with 140,800 miles on it. Good service record (at least with me) I have a K&N Filter and 15 inch tires with All-season tires (basically stock) I limited my revs to 2,500 rpm in every gear for both tests to ensure consistency. I made sure I limited top speed to 55 mph.
1) Fill gas tank until pump stops automatically.
2) Reset Trip Odometer
3) Start engine, Drive on desired route (17.5 miles trip...many stop signs), start stopwatch for time consumption.
4) Go back to same pump, same gas station
5) Stop stopwatch.
6) Note Trip Mileage, reset odometer
7) Use funnel to pour Acetone into your tank (I chose 2.5 ounces for 12 gallons...the graph was showing that less was more, especially for some vehicles.)
8) Fill tank until pump stops automatically.
9) Note fuel usage
10) Note Trip Mileage, reset odometer
11) Start engine, Drive on desired route (the same 17.5 miles, same driving style)
12) Go back to same pump, same gas station
13) Fill tank until pump stops automatically.
14) Note fuel usage and distance traveled
15) Compare results...
Results!
Average speed 33.5 (without acetone)
Fuel Used. .488 Gallons
Distance Traveled 17.5 Miles (City)
Miles per gallon = (17.5/.488) = 35.86 MPG
City 2 Average speed 33.65 (with 2.5 oz acetone for 12 gallon tank)
Fuel Used .381 Gallons
Distance Traveled = 17.5 Miles (City, same exact route)
Miles per Gallon = (17.5/.381) = 45.93 MPG
The only change I noticed was a slightly higher idle speed. But it wasn't above 850 rpm. I was instantly dismissed by other Honda-Tech users because my results were not conclusive. They said that this distance wasn't representative of anything but going to the grocery store. Also, they told me on my fill up that the automatic shut-off valves on gas pumps are highly erratic and do not yield good results. This is how I have always calculated my MPG. He told me in less than a .5 gal sample, I have a 500% error rate because he said that in his gas tank, he has seen fluctuations in his fuel level when he fills up (from an empty tank) of a .5 gallon.
When there is less than a .5 gallon in the tank, I just dont see there being that much of a spread. Granted it was .1 gallons off of the first fill up. I was adding less than .5 gallons of gas in the first place. In the end...I should have filled my fuel tank to the brim both times to get the most accurate reading.
At this point, I am going to drive this whole tank and note my MPG compared to my Regular driving style, the 38 mpg mixed city and highway (at the top). I will not change my driving style....but who can believe that when Scientists struggle to get the same data on runs exactly after one another.
Modified by tomauto at 9:18 PM 4/8/2006
My testing procedure:
My engine was at normal temperature and tires are at recommended PSI. I also had a friend along to witness. The total test took 1 hour. I chose BP Fuels.
I own a 1996 Honda Civic Lx with 140,800 miles on it. Good service record (at least with me) I have a K&N Filter and 15 inch tires with All-season tires (basically stock) I limited my revs to 2,500 rpm in every gear for both tests to ensure consistency. I made sure I limited top speed to 55 mph.
1) Fill gas tank until pump stops automatically.
2) Reset Trip Odometer
3) Start engine, Drive on desired route (17.5 miles trip...many stop signs), start stopwatch for time consumption.
4) Go back to same pump, same gas station
5) Stop stopwatch.
6) Note Trip Mileage, reset odometer
7) Use funnel to pour Acetone into your tank (I chose 2.5 ounces for 12 gallons...the graph was showing that less was more, especially for some vehicles.)
8) Fill tank until pump stops automatically.
9) Note fuel usage
10) Note Trip Mileage, reset odometer
11) Start engine, Drive on desired route (the same 17.5 miles, same driving style)
12) Go back to same pump, same gas station
13) Fill tank until pump stops automatically.
14) Note fuel usage and distance traveled
15) Compare results...
Results!
Average speed 33.5 (without acetone)
Fuel Used. .488 Gallons
Distance Traveled 17.5 Miles (City)
Miles per gallon = (17.5/.488) = 35.86 MPG
City 2 Average speed 33.65 (with 2.5 oz acetone for 12 gallon tank)
Fuel Used .381 Gallons
Distance Traveled = 17.5 Miles (City, same exact route)
Miles per Gallon = (17.5/.381) = 45.93 MPG
The only change I noticed was a slightly higher idle speed. But it wasn't above 850 rpm. I was instantly dismissed by other Honda-Tech users because my results were not conclusive. They said that this distance wasn't representative of anything but going to the grocery store. Also, they told me on my fill up that the automatic shut-off valves on gas pumps are highly erratic and do not yield good results. This is how I have always calculated my MPG. He told me in less than a .5 gal sample, I have a 500% error rate because he said that in his gas tank, he has seen fluctuations in his fuel level when he fills up (from an empty tank) of a .5 gallon.
When there is less than a .5 gallon in the tank, I just dont see there being that much of a spread. Granted it was .1 gallons off of the first fill up. I was adding less than .5 gallons of gas in the first place. In the end...I should have filled my fuel tank to the brim both times to get the most accurate reading.
At this point, I am going to drive this whole tank and note my MPG compared to my Regular driving style, the 38 mpg mixed city and highway (at the top). I will not change my driving style....but who can believe that when Scientists struggle to get the same data on runs exactly after one another.
Modified by tomauto at 9:18 PM 4/8/2006
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