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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 11:48 AM
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Hey hows it going. So I need to buy a front lower tie bar and I want to get something really nice. I was planning on buying a cusco one. Then I saw these 4 point lower ones on ebay and I just wanted to get some views on them. Heres the link to them http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...wItem Personally I don't think it will be to good but I wanted to see if anyone out here has used them. So please post some experiences and some views. O heres the pic just incase the ebay link doesn't work. THX.



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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 11:52 AM
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O so far for suspension i'm running kyb agx, tenzo coilovers, skunk 2 front and rear upper strut bar, tcsportline rear lca, tcsportline rear tie bar, tcsportline rear sway bar, and a proam front traction bar.
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 12:00 PM
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Your suspension is fine, unless you have some dough to throw down on a full coilover setup i think your good.
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 12:19 PM
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maybe I should just buy a front sway bar since I have a hatch that doesn't have one... anyways post some views but this 4 pt tie bar.
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 12:28 PM
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i dont know about you but i wouldnt trust those welds... but i have bad luck with ebay parts
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 12:37 PM
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I have 1 similar to that one. works great,. and easy as hell to install to. But mine was a none ebay part. But it's gotta be just as good.
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 12:46 PM
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I got the one off ebay. They do make a difference. It make the front of the car more stable.
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 12:53 PM
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yeah I was looking on modacar and they have one made by nrg I think I might get this one http://www.modacar.com/product....html But keep posting the comments I wanta hear some more views.
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 12:55 PM
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Did you guys run into any problems with it scrapping.
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 04:38 PM
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ttt
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 05:34 PM
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any other views?
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 05:54 PM
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have one on my 00 coupe, not ebay, but def. inproved the "stiffness" of the front end... on second hand.. my car is only 3in off the ground, so on speed bumps it does scrape! this could cause bending of the brace and it will rattle on your header...but if you can avoid that, definately worth it
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 06:30 PM
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Here a few pics of mine. Car was drop a little low and this is the result. The last picture was due to the bar rubbing on the header.


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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 07:10 PM
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wow i'm probally going to have to higher my car... my car is really low... what was ur suspension setup?
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 08:05 PM
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i use a cheap 2 pt one it can move it a bit since my car is low. the 4 pt is cool but since it has no play its a no go if your ride is low
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 08:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kaiba &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here a few pics of mine. Car was drop a little low and this is the result. The last picture was due to the bar rubbing on the header.


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told ya
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 08:50 PM
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but hey its probably better hitting that then your header or other parts... i want one now
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 09:10 PM
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i dont get all these bars.......i mean how stiff do you really need your car to be? especially the front...

and if you dont have a front sway bar, i'd think that would be your first priority, at least a stock integra one...

but good luck in whatever you choose.
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 09:29 PM
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Don't know how much the car was drop but set-up was ground-control coilover the one off the shelf with tokico blue. Btw i was running on 13" rims at that time.
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 11:07 PM
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Ok that bar that Kaiba has pictured is an ebay one that sucks ***. Its made from cheap material. If u look closely at it, u can see the dimples where it was bent into shape by the manufacturer. The bar hits the header because u can see where it arches up in the center, not flat. He scratches everywhere because he is running 13's. I have a 4 pt brace too and i rarely scratch it. My car is on 15's with 205/50 tires on them and dropped with a 1 finger gap on all wheels. i probably scratched it 6 times and had it for almost 2 years.

The best 4 pt brace would be the NRG ones, and I'm not just saying this because i sell them. I am using one now. They are constructed of T-6061 aluminum. They weigh 3.5 lbs in box with packaging material. The bends are clean, no dimples where the bends are. The NRG one is also model specific. 92-95 EG/ 94-01 DC and 96-00 EK, not one size fits all like on ebay. Plus the fitment is excellent, its guaranteed to fit, so long as u dont have a twisted crossmember. No need to mod like ebay or megan racing braces. Check out the pics



H-brace rear mount, notice the thickness and quality



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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 11:56 PM
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Mine scraps every so often...and the fitment wasent that good, had to make some small modifications!!
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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 06:13 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hyspeed808 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Mine scraps every so often...and the fitment wasent that good, had to make some small modifications!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
Speaking of fitment. The only problem i encounter was this one.
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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 06:25 AM
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A front sway bar would be more of an improvement.
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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 06:45 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boostinCX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You're suspension is fine, unless you have some dough to throw down on a full coilover setup i think you're good.</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by instrument &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> i dont get all these bars.......i mean how stiff do you really need your car to be?</TD></TR></TABLE>

What's wrong with you guys? We want them as stiff as humanly possible.
Stiff enough to rattle the fillings loose.

rukawa1one thanks for that input, that makes me want to get one of those...
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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 07:12 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mwieczorek43 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

What's wrong with you guys? We want them as stiff as humanly possible.
Stiff enough to rattle the fillings loose.

rukawa1one thanks for that input, that makes me want to get one of those...</TD></TR></TABLE>


Then the thread creator should be some REAL coilovers and shocks if he wants something stiffer. Like some custom rate GC's on Koni yellows.
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