my set up is
b18c1 block (81.50mm) 11.5:1cr
b16a2 head( supertech springs and retainers)
more mods.
i bought some new blox type B cams but im not sure if i want to install them. im thinking buy some buddy club spc 3 cams. and sell the blox cams
i heard the are better and bigger.
Are the buddy club spec3 cams are going to work well in my motor or should i stay with the Blox type b cams.
Is my compression good for the buddy club spec 3.
Im trying to hit 200WHP with my set up.
I will apriciate your help.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ruben19 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my set up is
b18c1 block (81.50mm) 11.5:1cr
b16a2 head( supertech springs and retainers)
more mods.
i bought some new blox type B cams but im not sure if i want to install them. im thinking buy some buddy club spc 3 cams. and sell the blox cams
i heard the are better and bigger.Are the buddy club spec3 cams are going to work well in my motor or should i stay with the Blox type b cams.
Is my compression good for the buddy club spec 3.
Im trying to hit 200WHP with my set up.
I will apriciate your help.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You really shouldnt go by what you HEAR. Try doing some research.
Anyway the BC3's are a stage 1 cam really, they will probably kill the blox up to about 8000 and thats when the blox will pull away

 

blox b's are a jun3 copy i think, so you are comparing a stage 3 to a stage1.

 

where the heck did you hear that the bc3's are bigger than blox b's?

 

the lobe lift is higher.
so should i stay with blox type b

 

i want to hit 200WHP
other mods:
64mm trottle body
blox intake maniflold
RC 310cc inj
ITR 4-1 header
Full 2.5 cat back
Supertech valve spring and retainers
Obd1 P06 chip ecu

 

The 2 cams are designed different, not to mention their purpose. Buddy club is a road racing company blox is more into dragging. If your looking for a all around performer go w/ the bc3 but I'm not guaranteeing 200whp. The blox should get you 200whp but it will be well above 8000rpm. Don't worry so much about the 200whp peak number......it's all about power under the curve.

P.s. If you wanna rwach 200whp you gotta ditch the jdm itr header and go with something like a hytech, rage, dtm, etc.

 

i cant afford some of the high-performance header at this time. $600-$1200 alot of money.
The itr header will ge the job done for now.

 

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Wtf are you talking about guy?

BC3+ 11.2/250 - 11.5/245
S2S2/Blox "B" 12.3/266 - 11.8/262

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondaluva &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Buddy club is a road racing company blox is more into dragging. </TD></TR></TABLE>

So are you saying that a BC4 does not produce power upto or sometimes further than the 9k mark, does that not have to do with "dragging?"??

 

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P.s. If you wanna rwach 200whp you gotta ditch the jdm itr header and go with something like a hytech, rage, dtm, etc.</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is false also. Yes it will make it easier to reach 200, but you don't have to do one of the mentioned above. Hell, if you were to take the ITR manifold and weld it from the outside and then grind off the welds on the inside, 200 won't be a problem. Either way, with a good tune and assuming the motor is assembled CORRECTLY and valve lash is set, I don't see a problem for 200 if you have some sort of engine management. Tuning will be key here, don't expect to throw a buncha **** together and expect to make decent #'s and the car to run to it's full potential.

 

blox all the way

 

my friend just finished his build gsr with pr3 pistons, b16 head, blox type bs and profab header. he made 200hp 133tq. so the type bs will be good for you

 

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This is false also. Yes it will make it easier to reach 200, but you don't have to do one of the mentioned above. Hell, if you were to take the ITR manifold and weld it from the outside and then grind off the welds on the inside, 200 won't be a problem. Either way, with a good tune and assuming the motor is assembled CORRECTLY and valve lash is set, I don't see a problem for 200 if you have some sort of engine management. Tuning will be key here, don't expect to throw a buncha **** together and expect to make decent #'s and the car to run to it's full potential.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yup . I made 200 with my oem 4-1.

 

This is good to know Im doing a similar set up but 83 bore in a sleeved gsr block.I guess I will go with blox b cams to.How much did you spend on your cams?

 

83mm with stock sleeve?
no good?
i dont think they will last at all.
the limit is 81.50mm or 82mm

 

like $450

 

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Read.

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Darton sleeved gsr block

 

i saw that.
What is your compression ratio?
im about to install my cams this weekend.
also the JDM ITR header,2.5'' catback,blox intake manifold,64mm bore TB.
I will tune it soon so i let you know the results.

 

its not back together yet .It should he around 11:8:1

 

before i bought these blox type b cams.
i was thinking about the HSL cams.
but my friend and a performance place told me to ge t Type B cams.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ruben19 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">before i bought these blox type b cams.
i was thinking about the HSL cams.
but my friend and a performance place told me to ge t Type B cams.</TD></TR></TABLE>

why is that?

 

blox HSL cams
that is the stage 3 but for the compression you have i would stay with the type b

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ruben19 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">blox HSL cams
that is the stage 3 but for the compression you have i would stay with the type b</TD></TR></TABLE>

Stage 3 = Blox Type C; not Blox HSL

 

Tbone has degreed the HSL's and they came out identical to S2S3's.