I was just wondering if you guys could help me.... (H series)
i wanted to know what are the best improvements or after market items that will help an all motor top end wise? (whp)

thanks

 

look in the faq

here next time search (that is the key on this site)
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1029795


Modified by Prelude SIR-T at 6:24 PM 4/1/2006

 

The basic stuff. I/H/E. Just get good quality/power producing parts.

For the header, I recommend SMSP.

http://sms-products.com/Headers.html

 

i heard that instead of purchasing new headers i could install some sort of exhaust dump...? would that be better? and i heard also that upgrading my intake manifold would usually only be done if i decide to slap on a turbo (f/I)....

 

build the motor...duh

 

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and get one of these.....

 

i think i might go with ceramic DC if i do get headers you get what you pay for in regards to headers.. do u have any other suggestions....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by creeping &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think i might go with ceramic DC if i do get headers you get what you pay for in regards to headers.. do u have any other suggestions....</TD></TR></TABLE>

why waste your money? We are talking about improvements and DC sports gets the in all aspects on this forum.

 

are you serious... wow thats i first but thanks... what do u suggest then.. the biggest bang for the buck! ?

 

they already said what the best would be. either custom or the smsp.
dc is teh suck

 

RMF or SMSP


i went with RMF


you cant cheap out if you go all motor. If you do, you are never going to meet the goals you want.

 

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dc is teh suck</TD></TR></TABLE>

smsp is custom

 

nice.. smsp is custom bud.. and RMF is a respectful and good quality header?

 

have a read https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1207405

 

creeping. Im going to be nice here, but theres a few things u need to realize.

1) Your a trial user, a newb, asking a newb question thats easily covered in the FAQ.

In conclusion drop the argumentitive ******* attitude. You asked a question, don't object to the answer you get

2) A AllMotor build does NOT include a turbo, that would be forced induction. So, why would you question about a All motor build, then talk about putting a IM on before a turbo??

3) Get some JUN/Crower cams, RMF or SMSP (WHICH ARE NOT CUSTOM) header, i suggest RMF out of preference. a 2.5 Inch straight back exhaust (2.5 from the collector back, 2.5 test pipe / high flow cat), Port and Polish head, 11.5 Compression (maybe 12:1), Upgrade your rods / pistons, Id do sleeving just for durability. Upgrade your drive train (valves, springs, retainers etc).

4) Repeat Step1. part2.

 

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and get one of these.....

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wat header is that?

 

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Look at his sig.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">3) Get some JUN/Crower cams, RMF or SMSP (WHICH ARE NOT CUSTOM) header</TD></TR></TABLE>

RMF, SMSP, DTR, Kteller, Rage, ANR, Prospeed, Burns...

all ARE custom headers. Each one is hand made.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMF22B &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">creeping. Im going to be nice here, but theres a few things u need to realize.

1) Your a trial user, a newb, asking a newb question thats easily covered in the FAQ.

In conclusion drop the argumentitive ******* attitude. You asked a question, don't object to the answer you get

2) A AllMotor build does NOT include a turbo, that would be forced induction. So, why would you question about a All motor build, then talk about putting a IM on before a turbo??

3) Get some JUN/Crower cams, RMF or SMSP (WHICH ARE NOT CUSTOM) header, i suggest RMF out of preference. a 2.5 Inch straight back exhaust (2.5 from the collector back, 2.5 test pipe / high flow cat), Port and Polish head, 11.5 Compression (maybe 12:1), Upgrade your rods / pistons, Id do sleeving just for durability. Upgrade your drive train (valves, springs, retainers etc).

4) Repeat Step1. part2.</TD></TR></TABLE>

youre an idiot<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93h22a1vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wat header is that?</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats a CUSTOM RMF header for jd3jdm

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mgags7 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">youre an idiot

thats a CUSTOM RMF header for jd3jdm</TD></TR></TABLE>

HeArTlEsS BaStArD

 

I was told that the stock h22 headers are pretty good by them selves. The guy i talked to said you can buy a dc header but only see maybe a 3% change. (info from Tuners Edge)

 

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hey hey easy on the criticism, im sensitive....

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by H22-VTEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was told that the stock h22 headers are pretty good by them selves. The guy i talked to said you can buy a dc header but only see maybe a 3% change. (info from Tuners Edge)</TD></TR></TABLE>

this phenomenon, however difficult (LOL) to believe, is true not because the stock unit is so good, its because <FONT SIZE="5"><FONT COLOR="red">DC IS CRAP</FONT></FONT>.....for the last time

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMF22B &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">creeping. Im going to be nice here, but theres a few things u need to realize.

1) Your a trial user, a newb, asking a newb question thats easily covered in the FAQ.

In conclusion drop the argumentitive ******* attitude. You asked a question, don't object to the answer you get

2) A AllMotor build does NOT include a turbo, that would be forced induction. So, why would you question about a All motor build, then talk about putting a IM on before a turbo??

3) Get some JUN/Crower cams, RMF or SMSP (WHICH ARE NOT CUSTOM) header, i suggest RMF out of preference. a 2.5 Inch straight back exhaust (2.5 from the collector back, 2.5 test pipe / high flow cat), Port and Polish head, 11.5 Compression (maybe 12:1), Upgrade your rods / pistons, Id do sleeving just for durability. Upgrade your drive train (valves, springs, retainers etc).

4) Repeat Step1. part2.</TD></TR></TABLE>

number one you dont have to answer any of my questions due too four reasons;

1. you're not helpful

2. you dont know what you're talking about

3. i never once stated i was going turbo

4. i don't want to be rude to anybody on this site because everyone has been very helpfull without the attitude... and i thank everyone else that has taken the time to help me out...

 

well the question is, what hp levels are you looking for? and how much are you willing to spend?

 

Wow, I ask a better question than this and my **** gets locked in about 2 seconds.

I asked what it would take for ~200whp, AND what a 5th gen with 200whp could be expected to E.T. Then I get the usual "Go search n00b" answer. Well guess what asses? I search for "200whp" in the Prelude forum and get one result, which is one dynograph and about 5 pages of people bitching about SMSP headers. Yay. Helpful.

OK, now that my rant is over, to the original poster, from my own research (with no thanks to have the high-and-mighties here) I've found that indeed, a basic DC header absolutely will not cut it, and that custom headers, though expensive, net impressive gains despite the fact that we're playing with such very little displacement.

My future mods (and I hate to say that cause it always sounds lame) include:

RMF/SMSP header
Cat-back to STOCK muffler
Type-S intake
VAFC + tune (dyno)

Good luck with your build, and perhaps some more folks will check their e-ego's and submit some helpful info.