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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 12:19 AM
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Default How come crower cams are not in the most wanted list?

I've been searching and noticed that most of you guys prefer skunk's, bc's, jun's or m22s. But is there anything wrong with crower cams? Am thinking of putting it in my JDM ITR. Maybe 402 or 402a's. What gives? Any info would be highly appreciated.
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 12:36 AM
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i have 402's in my build but i havent gotten it tuned yet so i couldnt tell you how they are
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 01:02 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GetawayInMoscow &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have 402's in my build but i havent gotten it tuned yet so i couldnt tell you how they are</TD></TR></TABLE>

Can you keep me posted once you tune it? I would appreciate feedback on them? BTW, why did'nt you go for the 402a's?
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 05:07 AM
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people dont like them because they used to break....they dont do that anymore because they use a new blank...i have broken a pair and now i have another pair that has been in the motor for almost 3 years
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 08:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by camlob &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Can you keep me posted once you tune it? I would appreciate feedback on them? BTW, why did'nt you go for the 402a's?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I bought mine used and got a good deal on them. I can tell you untuned they idle near stock. You definitely can't hear that I have cams by listening like on a V8 for example.
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 08:43 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by camlob &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Can you keep me posted once you tune it? I would appreciate feedback on them? BTW, why did'nt you go for the 402a's?</TD></TR></TABLE>

The 402a's have stock honda primary lobes and will idle stock and have no problem with passing emmisions but there is no way they will have the midrange power the the 402's will have IMO the 402 is a better choice. Dan
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 09:12 AM
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Default Re: How come crower cams are not in the most wanted list? (Dan Ruddock)

crower is a good company and they were the first copanyt to back the forged crank for a honda motor. I had a friend who was running 403s and they broke he just called up crower and he sent em back and they sent him the fresh "new blanks" fre of charge they have good custmer sevice
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 09:18 AM
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they do a good job on my crx i have the vtek killers and they sound great and they made good power 235whp on my b16 block it is storked to a 1.858
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 09:47 AM
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because they dont make the power of the other cams u listed.
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 11:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Used2beAb16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">because they dont make the power of the other cams u listed.</TD></TR></TABLE> Not true what so ever. I like my crower stg 2's they are more than sufficient
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 11:49 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Used2beAb16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">because they dont make the power of the other cams u listed.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not true. RD DYNO clinched victory with CROWER CAMS at the B-SERIES shootout. 283.2 HP, 177.4 TORQUE.

http://www.importtuner.com/bse...es07/
http://www.importtuner.com/bse...e_03/

CROWER CAMS=
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 12:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EdgarJD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Not true. RD DYNO clinched victory with CROWER CAMS at the B-SERIES shootout. 283.2 HP, 177.4 TORQUE.

http://www.importtuner.com/bse...es07/
http://www.importtuner.com/bse...e_03/

CROWER CAMS= </TD></TR></TABLE> although im not doubting the power crower cams make, there is more to an engine build than just the cams
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 02:01 PM
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Default Re: How come crower cams are not in the most wanted list? (KINGSOL18)

Thanks a lot guys. So they are not that bad after all and in fact, good or decent. We don't have a lot of choices over here. The tuner sells them so maybe I can get a better package when he tunes the engine.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KINGSOL18 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> although im not doubting the power crower cams make, there is more to an engine build than just the cams</TD></TR></TABLE>

I definitely agree that there is more to an engine build than just cams but for my needs right now, I think they will just suffice. Maybe down the road, I don't know how far, 84mm pistons?
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 02:41 PM
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the 402's are nice cams. i wouldnt go for the 402a's... the 402's do not have a bad idle.. and i would want to make more bottom... so if you get them opt for the regular 402's..


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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 03:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pr0honda &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the 402's are nice cams. i wouldnt go for the 402a's... the 402's do not have a bad idle.. and i would want to make more bottom... so if you get them opt for the regular 402's..


shawn</TD></TR></TABLE> Agreed
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 03:11 PM
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Default Re: How come crower cams are not in the most wanted list? (Dan Ruddock)

Just dont get their Ti Retainers. I saw a set 2 weekes ago at a local shop that broke from normal use at 4000rpm. They dont have enough material where the springs are seated. I looked at them up close and it was maybe .05" thick. Not good
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 07:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mekanism &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just dont get their Ti Retainers. I saw a set 2 weekes ago at a local shop that broke from normal use at 4000rpm. They dont have enough material where the springs are seated. I looked at them up close and it was maybe .05" thick. Not good </TD></TR></TABLE>

I wouldn't condemn Crower Ti retainers because one broke.I've used several sets with no problem and there must be thousands of sets running fine out there.
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 07:28 PM
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i had 402's w/ full crower valvetrain in my last setup. they are nice cams!
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 08:05 PM
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i use the TI crower retainers and i've been revving to 8700rpm daily for about 2 years now.
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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 07:35 AM
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[QUOTE=KINGSOL18] although im not doubting the power crower cams make, there is more to an engine build than just the cams[/QUOTE

Exactly. Also where those cams custom grinds from crower? I dont think they were the 403's.

I do see why everybody could make all the newer improved cams we've seen lately and still base them off a JUN profile if the crower was making more power.

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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 04:39 PM
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I'd like to see dyno charts between crowers and other popular cams
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Old Apr 3, 2006 | 07:53 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NJIN BUILDR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I wouldn't condemn Crower Ti retainers because one broke.I've used several sets with no problem and there must be thousands of sets running fine out there.</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you saw what I saw then you would think twice about it. I was a machinist for several years and seeing that there was only .050" of material between running good and disaster was scary from my perspective. Also, most people seem to think that titanium is stronger than steel and it isnt. Titanium is 90% as strong but 50% as light. You use titanium for weight savings not strength!
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Old Apr 24, 2006 | 11:24 PM
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Old Apr 25, 2006 | 09:22 AM
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Hey people with 402's, what's your VTEC crossover and to what RPM are you making power?
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Old Apr 25, 2006 | 09:35 AM
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anyone tried the crower stg 3s on the street... I'm thinking about using them for my 12.2:1 crvtec build.
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